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Old 01-03-2022, 06:17 AM
 
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Who made you God, with the power to decide what someone can or cannot do with their own body? It is never, ever, any of your business whether a woman chooses to have an abortion.
Who made you God, choosing who to kill?

 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:35 AM
 
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An embryo is not a person, is not a life, is not viable, and therefore abortion is not murder.
Then why is fetal homicide prosecuted as such?
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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Not that often. Remember, 95% of all unintended pregnancies are due to failure to even use any birth control at all (54%), or using it incorrectly/inconsistently (41%) such as not taking one or more daily pills during a cycle.

Some of the clinics are private practices, they're not all public health department clinics. Any private practice can apply for Title X Family Planning funds. Note that the 4,000+ Title X FP Clinics located throughout the US are FAR more easily accessible than the just 272 abortion clinics. It's MUCH easier to access FREE birth control than it is to get an abortion that must be paid for. Abortions aren't free.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/29/healt...rnd/index.html
Birth control is irrelevant.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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That can only be proven in 0.5% of all abortions. Only 0.5% of all abortions are performed because the mother's life is at risk. Over 98% of abortions are performed solely for the sake of convenience, not due to medical necessity, rape, or incest.

It ceases to be one's own bodily autonomy when it kills another's life.
Nope. Pregnant women risk death from the time they conceived until they have delivered. Can't always know when that risk will happen.

Women should not be forced by a state full of busy bodies to risk their lives if they dont want to.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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Then why is fetal homicide prosecuted as such?
Fetal homicide laws except abortion.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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Standing up for the dignity of human life is misogyny? Roughly 50% of unborn babies are female. Killing millions of women before have the chance to be born certainly doesn't seem like a big win for women's rights to me.
I've pointed this out, as well, and they have absolutely no explanation/justification for that.

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But whether you're for or against abortion, my big objection is that the entire matter was unceremoniously snatched out of the arena of public discussion. It became a "right" because the SCOTUS is frequently drunk with it's own power and makes wrongheaded decisions. Let's go back to letting the popular voice of the people decide these matters instead of a bunch of unelected judges.
Correct. SCOTUS has overturned its own decisions more than 300 times.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:55 AM
 
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Your so called girl babies, which in scientific reality are embryos or fetuses are not living breathing women.
Then why are people being prosecuted for and convicted of killing them?
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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Then why are people being prosecuted for and convicted of killing them?
Because the law allows it with an exception for abortion.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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Who made you God, with the power to decide what someone can or cannot do with their own body? It is never, ever, any of your business whether a woman chooses to have an abortion.
When you have 5 Sotomayors or Ginsburgs on the SC, maybe you'll get what you want, a society with abortion at-will throughout an entire pregnancy up to the moment the fetus exits the woman's body.
 
Old 01-03-2022, 07:01 AM
 
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I am. SCOTUS was my #1 reason for supporting POTUS Trump in 2016. Stopping federal government overreach was a large part of that for me.

I love local control, where if an official goes against what the residents want, a few hundred votes can end his or her career and bring a change agent in.

This SCOTUS I am truly proud of, not just for this case. I approved of their decision in favor of Mark Janus also.
I applauded their ruling in Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid (private property rights).
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