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Old 12-01-2021, 07:06 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
A fetus is terminated. Most abortions happen in the first trimester. There are no body parts to be salvaged. Women aren’t stupid they know what abortion is.
This is what a baby has by the end of the first 12 weeks:

A heart
A brain
Elbows
A head and a face
Nose and nostrils
Lips
Eyes and eyelids
Ears
Intestines
Genitals
A liver
Red blood cells
Arms
Toes and fingers
Fingernails

So the women who know what they’re doing know that they are aborting a child, their child.

That makes it so much sadder.

 
Old 12-01-2021, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I agree. If R v W is overturned it will be the end of the GOP. It would be like the SCOTUS banning all gun possession. That would end it for the democrats. Only 39% of Americans are anti abortion. The GOP has to stop picking issues that are widely unpopular.

Mississippi is dead last in vaccination rates for covid. Dead last in just about everything. Not a surprise they are the ones doing this.
You can't just win elections with a few progressive rich states. Thinking that the 39 % of Americans is insignificant is unwise. The sparsely populated states and poor southern states still have electoral votes and congressman and 2 senators. Also anti Abortion folks are some of the most reliable voters on earth.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 07:41 PM
 
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You can't just win elections with a few progressive rich states. Thinking that the 39 % of Americans is insignificant is unwise. The sparsely populated states and poor southern states still have electoral votes and congressman and 2 senators. Also anti Abortion folks are some of the most reliable voters on earth.


Liberals keep looking for game changers regarding voting that do not exist. The interior of the nation is mainly red statewide, and no single issue will change it. Nor will demographics which are far more complex than liberals admit. Many of the state's libs do worse in are hardly changing, in terms of demographics.

In addition, red states add Congressional seats every census, taken from blue states not keeping pace in population growth.

The tone of the questions by the SC's Strict Constitutionalists today was a welcome relief from the left-wing, activist tone that disregarded our most precious documents these last few decades.

No matter the decision, I am delighted with the 3 newest additions. I want them thinking of the Constitution in every ruling made, and not trying to interpret it in a new styled manner, but trying to absorb its message as originally intended.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:12 PM
 
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As far as I’m concerned this nation started a decline after the Roe V Wade decision.
I agree with this.
It’s hard to have reverence for human life when we so easily destroy our most innocent and vulnerable.
It should come as no surprise when tragic acts of murder are committed .
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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I agree with this.
It’s hard to have reverence for human life when we so easily destroy our most innocent and vulnerable.
It should come as no surprise when tragic acts of murder are committed .
So, you are OK with pregnant girls who are desperate to not have a baby dying when they get an abortion from some fake doctor using a knitting needle or coathanger?

When Roe was decided, our doctor where we lived in North Texas closed his family practice, and started performing abortions. He said "I never want to see another teenage girl bleeding to death from a butcher job by an unqualified person".

For most teenagers who have a baby, their life is over until their mid-30's. No college, just an endless string of menial jobs that barely pay enough to live on, unable to properly care for the child, and the baby's father is nowhere to be found.

Pre-viability fetuses are little more than a clump of cells. No pain receptors, no heart, none of that stuff. Feel free to not have an abortion of your own, but don't you dare get all high and mighty and self righteous and tell some other woman she has to follow your dictates. It's none of your business. Period.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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If you will tell us what a "back alley abortion" actually is, and where it has been performed in modern times, we could have a discussion.

Abortion will not go away; some states will permit it and others will not. Just like was done in 1972.
You can't honestly tell me you don't know the term back alley abortions. Women got abortions before it was legal. They were performed in unsanitary conditions because it had to be hidden. Many who performed them didn't even have the medical training to do so. And many women died as a result. And we don't have back alley abortions today because abortion is legal.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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This is what a baby has by the end of the first 12 weeks:

A heart
A brain
Elbows
A head and a face
Nose and nostrils
Lips
Eyes and eyelids
Ears
Intestines
Genitals
A liver
Red blood cells
Arms
Toes and fingers
Fingernails

So the women who know what they’re doing know that they are aborting a child, their child.

That makes it so much sadder.
2 inches long and unable to survive outside the uterus. Women live with their choice. It’s on them not you.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:29 PM
 
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2 inches long and unable to survive outside the uterus. Women live with their choice. It’s on them not you.
It's on neither them, you, or me, and the SC decision will be between federalizing the rules, or returning it to states, to allow for local decision making regarding the rules.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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2 inches long and unable to survive outside the uterus. Women live with their choice. It’s on them not you.
If the baby stayed 2 inches long they wouldn’t have to abort it, would they?

And the ugly truth is that many women are traumatized by their choice. They feel guilt and remorse and shame. Some women become unable to carry a child to term later.

The idea that women breeze in and out of an abortion like it’s getting their hair done is a terrible lie.
 
Old 12-01-2021, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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If the baby stayed 2 inches long they wouldn’t have to abort it, would they?

And the ugly truth is that many women are traumatized by their choice. They feel guilt and remorse and shame. Some women become unable to carry a child to term later.

The idea that women breeze in and out of an abortion like it’s getting their hair done is a terrible lie.
I know a military psychologist with several patients dealing abortion related trauma now.
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