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A large majority of the American people support abortion so if RvW was to be overruled that would not be short lived victory. A vast majority don't want to make it 1970, most see this as a very right wing assault on personal freedom. This falls under the heading of be careful what you ask for you may get what you want.
The conservative justices want to narrow rights, that is unsupported by the voting public.
If that is the case then why are so many people worried about RvW getting overturned. If the majority of people are for abortions then it shouldn’t be a huge obstacle for voters to elect representatives in the federal and state legislatures to enact laws protecting abortion rights. That is what is supposed to happen, not run to nine attorneys dressed in robes to draw up laws out of thin air. That is not the duty of SCOTUS.
What anchor babies are you talking about. If you are born in the US then you are a citizen according to our constitution.
Read the amendment, it say “Subject To The Jurisdiction Thereof”. Their parents are not nationals of this country. Their allegiance is to a foreign country.
I won’t go further in this matter because it’s not the topic of this thread.
The point I was trying to make is people are concerned about the financial strain on government having to force women to give birth, but nobody seems to be concerned about the cost of illegals giving birth here in the US and putting a financial strain on government social programs.
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Read the amendment, it say “Subject To The Jurisdiction Thereof”. Their parents are not nationals of this country. Their allegiance is to a foreign country.
I won’t go further in this matter because it’s not the topic of this thread.
The point I was trying to make is people are concerned about the financial strain on government having to force women to give birth, but nobody seems to be concerned about the cost of illegals giving birth here in the US and putting a financial strain on government social programs.
"Lower birth rates and freer markets have led to a sustained drop in Mexicans moving north to find work, developments that will reshape the immigration debate in the United States. "
When they can find work at home, they'll stay home. Mexico already has the low income programs, one in which is cash payout to single moms ...
If that is the case then why are so many people worried about RvW getting overturned. If the majority of people are for abortions then it shouldn’t be a huge obstacle for voters to elect representatives in the federal and state legislatures to enact laws protecting abortion rights. That is what is supposed to happen, not run to nine attorneys dressed in robes to draw up laws out of thin air. That is not the duty of SCOTUS.
If that is the case then why are so many people worried about RvW getting overturned. If the majority of people are for abortions then it shouldn’t be a huge obstacle for voters to elect representatives in the federal and state legislatures to enact laws protecting abortion rights. That is what is supposed to happen, not run to nine attorneys dressed in robes to draw up laws out of thin air. That is not the duty of SCOTUS.
It’s the Supreme Court deciding not elected officials
If that is the case then why are so many people worried about RvW getting overturned. If the majority of people are for abortions then it shouldn’t be a huge obstacle for voters to elect representatives in the federal and state legislatures to enact laws protecting abortion rights. That is what is supposed to happen, not run to nine attorneys dressed in robes to draw up laws out of thin air. That is not the duty of SCOTUS.
It is a huge obstacle because of extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression. Gerrymandering is deeply undemocratic. It leaves many citizens rightfully feeling like their vote doesn't count and gives legislative power to the minority rather than the majority.
It’s the Supreme Court deciding not elected officials
This matter should not be in the supreme courts hands. Listen to Kavanaugh’s statement. He specifies the court should have neutrality in this case. Meaning this matter should be taken up by the people and their elected officials. He was the only justice that had it correct. In fact, the only argument here is not if abortion should be illegal, but what is the definition of viability? How on God’s green earth should that decision be left to the court? Where is their expertise in this matter? Furthermore, this matter has nothing to do with the constitution whatsoever. The term “Liberty” in this matter has been stretched to mean just about anything even the killing of helpless human beings.
It is a huge obstacle because of extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression. Gerrymandering is deeply undemocratic. It leaves many citizens rightfully feeling like their vote doesn't count and gives legislative power to the minority rather than the majority.
That still doesn’t change the fact that SCOTUS is not a legislative body.
It’s the Supreme Court deciding not elected officials
SC decided in Roe, improperly as making the decision was a state's right, not the Supreme Court's decision. I'd say that even had they disallowed abortion nationally. It is not the fed's decision, either way.
This case will likely result in the decision being handed back to local government, whose officials are elected freely by their constituents.
This SC is properly against massive SC control. The decision you fear is not going to be SCOTUS deciding; it will be SCOTUS saying "abortion legislation is NOT our decision to make". I agree with the point in quotes 100%.
Prior to Roe vs Wade, women had choices in how to "manage the decision". You do know where babies come from, right? Don't want a baby? Don't do that thing that results in pregnancy. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. Might have something to do with the fact that the concept of personal responsibility and accountability is a completely alien concept to some folks. Perform the action, accept the consequences. It's called being an adult.
Or don't have the bad luck of getting raped.
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