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How exactly did Trump's family get richer? and how were lgbtq rights "halted"? not to mention "persons of color" and "women"? Spell it out for us; let's have a debate, not a slogan-slinging contest.
I'll tell you how what you said is not true. During the Trump era, blacks and women and Hispanics all enjoyed the highest employment numbers in history. Lgbtq may have disliked Trump because he's right-wing and they're mostly left-wing, yet there was nothing done to hurt them, except for instructing the military not to accept trans recruits who were going through transition and would require surgical or pharmaceutical procedures.
As for making his family richer, that's absolutely ridiculous. Trump stepped back from his businesses, and his net worth declined by hundreds of millions of dollars during his term in office. Ditto his daughter and her husband and his two sons, all of whom worked for free for the Administration (Jared, Ivanka) or were outspoken advocates of the administration (e.g. Don Jr.). None of them were "making money" during that time, and actually they accomplished a lot for the country that will probably never be recognized, e.g. Jared's brilliant Abraham Accords that brought Israel recognition to 5 Muslim countries.
Actually, Wise Wino's comment is very typical of the Democrats: denigrate Trump, deny his accomplishments, and make it sound as though he was just this grifter who came in, badly damaged the country, then got kicked out by a vast majority of the populace, thus explaining why a senile old tongue-tied hair-sniffing political insider like Biden could get the most votes of anyone in history.
In fact, it was a combination of the pandemic, which was greatly exaggerated and exploited by Democrat governors and legislators to consolidate power and for personal gain, Trump's own word-salad speaking style, and Big Tech which saw him as a threat to their growing hold on America. And of course, mailed ballots which was the perfect way to harvest millions of extra votes from disengaged, uninformed voters.
We have to give the Democrats credit for their hard work and cleverness; they did manage to pull victory from the jaws of defeat. No one expected Biden to win, not even most Democrats, until literally a week after Election Day when it was clear that their massive harvesting effort in swing districts had paid off.
The question moving forward is, will election reform laws stop the harvesting? Will Republicans and independents punish the Democrats in 2022 for the increasingly shaky economy and continued lockdowns in blue states? It's going to be an interesting 16 months.
In all the battle ground states Trump got 500,000 more votes in 2020 than in 2016. Trump excelled in the polls , but the left had fake ballots sent in from China.. customs picked up some. Dead people voted. people voted twice. Out of state people crossed lines to vote again. Pets were sent ballots, sham addresses, in office building, non existent addresses, paying people to get votes, giving gift cards to vote Biden. Anything one can think of and more to get fake ballots. Many districts had more votes cast than there was registered voters. up to 300 percent more voters . It was the biggest sham .
Trump gained votes in every state. Hundreds of thousands more.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Voting laws were relaxed and ignored. Mail-in voting ballots were sent to millions of people who no longer lived where the ballot was sent. Big tech and news media went all-in repressing anything that made Biden look bad and massively exaggerating everything that made Trump look bad. The obvious fact was that 2020 was a game where whoever was the best cheater would win. The Democrats cheated in every conceivable way. They won. Simple as that.
Biden won because Trump was that bad. There wasn't cheating.
Well let's see....deregulating banking regulations meant to protect consumers from predatory lending, gutting Social Security and Medicare, ending the Affordable Care Act and, by default, protections for people with pre-existing medical conditions.
Those tax cuts only really helped the top 1% of the people in the nation. The rest of us got a pittance that quickly dried up.
Those are Democrat talking points, not facts.
I'm curious how SS and Medicare got "gutted". Got any facts? Links?
The only part of the ACA that actually was repealed was the personal mandate. If you recall, John McCain cast the deciding vote against repealing the entire ACA.
Trump also opposed repealing pre-existing conditions and said so in many speeches.
By the way, Trump enacted some major reforms of the Veterans Admin., including right to use different doctors, right to fire incompetent personnel. He also got "right to try" passed -- so that people with severe or fatal conditions could try experimental treatments, versus just dying.
Trump also freed thousands of prisoners doing hard time for drug offenses, most of them black.
Now, as for the tax cuts. There's been so much written and said about those tax cuts; had it been Obama's idea, I suspect it would have been called the greatest tax reform in history. But since it wasn't their idea, the Dems called it a steal, a gift to the rich, only the top 1% benefited, etc. etc. Whereas, in actuality, everyone benefited both directly and indirectly. Those tax cuts still exist, by the way; the Dems have been unable to repeal them. But the Dems were desperate to paint them, falsely, as only benefiting the rich. Look, if lying gets you elected....you'll lie.
The corporate tax cuts benefited the entire country. It made it cheaper to operate a business in the United States, from one-person LLC on up to trillion dollar Apple/Amazon/Google. It freed up more money to hire people, give raises, do R&D, invest in new equipment, etc. Intel build a new wafer fab in Arizona 4 years ago and stated publicly that it was the Trump tax cuts that made it feasible.
He also avoided foreign wars. He gave American commanders in Syria and Iraq the latitude to fight ISIS the way they wanted to but were prevented by Pentagon career generals. Once given that latitude, they destroyed ISIS as a fighting force within a couple of weeks. Then he removed U.S. personnel from the region.
It'll be interesting to see if Biden can maintain that record. He's already kicked Israel to the curb and cozied up to Iran, so we're probably looking at a nuclear war in the Middle East within 5 years, when a U.S.-supported Iran tries to take out our former ally.
Despite all of this, clearly enough of the American people wanted Trump gone that he could not sweep the 2020 reelection the way he might have, had he not been at war with the Democrats the previous 4 years. Even if he had won in the swing states, it would have been by a hair. He lost Arizona, Georgia, Nevada by a few thousand votes, a tiny percentage. Had he won by a tiny percentage, it still wouldn't have been a mandate.
By the same token, Biden won only by a hair. He got millions more votes (or ballots, anyway), but a few million extra votes in NY and California are meaningless; Trump was never going to win those states anyway (though, in my opinion, both states badly need a new party to come in and take over from the current incompetents).
What's more, the Dems lost seats in the House and are hanging on by a hair. The Dem reps in swing districts are under water and highly unlikely to win reelection. Unless something very odd happens, the House will be safely Republican in a year and a half, and the current spend-fest will grind to a halt.
Will Trump win another election in 2024? It seems unlikely; of course, his supporters believe in him just as much as before, but you know, he'll be 78 and that's just too old for that job. On the other hand, Biden's already 78. But look at him. He barely knows his own name these days.
I would agree there is an element of denial/sore-loser-ness in how people reacted to 2020, though not that different from how the Democrats reacted to Trump's upset victory in 2016.
However, after the 2020 election, a lot of pro-Trump voters were asking how such an awful candidate managed to draw such a massive voter turnout, more than Obama's historic turnout. And that is not being sore loser, that is asking a very reasonable question, one that the Democrats have never really answered.
Mail-in ballots are inherently insecure. It was not a huge issue before, because there weren't enough of them to make a difference, except in a couple of states where everyone votes by mail (Colorado, Oregon).
But in 2020, 70 million people voted by mail, many of them first time voters, and there was no chain of custody, no proof of identity, and there were even drop-boxes set up on public streets where anyone could just plop a ballot in, with no witnesses, no I.D., just take it on faith that it was one-man, one-vote and not some kind of massive ballot harvesting operation of going door-to-door and asking people to thumb-print a pre-filled ballot. Which in some places it clearly was.
Another oddity is the very low number of rejected mail-in ballots. I forget the exact numbers & don't have time right now to look it up, but it was a factor of 100 difference between previous elections, when about 10% of ballots were rejected because not filled out properly, and 2020 when 0.4% were rejected. In a year when tens of millions of voters switched to mailed ballots, you'd expect to see more mistakes, not less. Someone testified that in Philadelphia, the counters were instructed to ignore mistakes or give the voter the benefit of the doubt.
When you aggregate all the problems and questions about the 2020 election, is it any wonder that people are calling it fraudulent?
This is nonsensical and irrelevant. Furthermore it's been established that the Russian contribution to the 2020 election consisted of around $5,000 in ads posted on Facebook. Seriously?
re: the bolded, no one has to bother to answer your ridiculous claim. The people who voted for Biden did not consider him an awful candidate. They did consider Trump awful though, and were highly motivated to vote to get his monstrosity of a corrupt administration out of office.
And no "people" aren't calling the 2020 election fraudulent. Just the sore loser Trumpers.
While that's all very interesting, it fails to explain why a brain dead idiot with a massively corrupt family and who can barely string two sentences together outperformed Hillary Clinton. Clinton wasn't great, but to this day she can actually speak coherently.
Voting laws were relaxed and ignored. Mail-in voting ballots were sent to millions of people who no longer lived where the ballot was sent. Big tech and news media went all-in repressing anything that made Biden look bad and massively exaggerating everything that made Trump look bad. The obvious fact was that 2020 was a game where whoever was the best cheater would win. The Democrats cheated in every conceivable way. They won. Simple as that.
Ballots weren’t sent to millions.
Ballot applications were sent.
What cheating proof do you have?
re: the bolded, no one has to bother to answer your ridiculous claim. The people who voted for Biden did not consider him an awful candidate. They did consider Trump awful though, and were highly motivated to vote to get his monstrosity of a corrupt administration out of office.
And no "people" aren't calling the 2020 election fraudulent. Just the sore loser Trumpers.
No matter how often you people repeat these talking points, you are convincing no one except yourself.
It's like a catechism with you people. Say it over and over. "Trump's awful. Trump's a monster. Trump's corrupt."
Even after I (and others) post countless facts refuting these ridiculous accusations, TDS-afflicted Democrats just glaze over and ignore it. Sad.
But, at least you got Trump kicked off of Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. That way, you can pretend that he doesn't exist.
The rest of us, out here in the real world, know he exists, and the issues he talks about still exist. But it appears there's a whole segment of the U.S. population that prefers to live in a fantasy bubble.
No matter how often you people repeat these talking points, you are convincing no one except yourself.
It's like a catechism with you people. Say it over and over. "Trump's awful. Trump's a monster. Trump's corrupt."
Even after I (and others) post countless facts refuting these ridiculous accusations, TDS-afflicted Democrats just glaze over and ignore it. Sad.
But, at least you got Trump kicked off of Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. That way, you can pretend that he doesn't exist.
The rest of us, out here in the real world, know he exists, and the issues he talks about still exist. But it appears there's a whole segment of the U.S. population that prefers to live in a fantasy bubble.
Hey blister,
I bet I know where you were on January 6th.
Time to wake up and stop drinking the Kool-aid, Trump is not coming back. He'll be too busy fighting all the criminal charges to run for President.
I think I can settle some fears of election theft. Biden outperformed Hillary in the majority of states and therefore this would carry over into the swing states too. Was there mass cheating in almost every state?
I will select non-swing states at random and compare the 2016 to 2020 results.
The 2016 result is always first and 2020 second.
Alaska Trump +47K, Trump +36K
Indiana Trump +524K, Trump +487
Iowa Trump +147K, Trump +138K
Massachusetts +904K Hillary, Biden +1,215K
Minnesota +45K Hillary, Biden +233K
Mississippi Trump +215K, Trump +216K
Missouri Trump +523K, +465K Trump
Montana Trump +102K, Trump +99K
Nebraska Trump +211K, Trump +182K
New Jersey Hillary +546K, Biden +725K
North Dakota +123K Trump, +121K Trump
Oregon Hillary +220K, Biden 382K
Tennessee Trump +653K, +709K Trump
Texas Trump +798K, Trump +631K
West Virginia +301K Trump, +209K Trump
I chose 15 states at random. Biden outperformed Hillary in 13 of the 15 states. The 2 states that Trump outperformed in 2020 in were by small margins. Biden tended to outperform Hillary by large margins.
Surely it is possible some cheating occurred both ways, but the overwhelming trend of the 2020 election was that Trump made many people angry who showed up and gave Biden a bigger performance than Hillary had in the clear majority of states.
Last November, only 42,000 votes in three key states kept Trump from winning re-election. In 2020, Biden’s 7-million-vote edge came entirely from California and New York. These are largely what election experts call “wasted” votes—Democratic votes that don’t, ultimately, help the Democrat to win.
In 2022 and 2024, Democrats may need to do more cheating than usual to defeat GOP.
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