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Old 07-29-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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So he is saying that those vaccinated may be unknowing carriers, beats being un-vaxed and hospitalized...
Ding, ding , ding... or dead...

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Old 07-29-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It results in more severe disease than the common cold or chicken pox?
More serious disease than previous variants of covid.
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Old 07-29-2021, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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More serious disease than previous variants of covid.
Is that actually true? And is it showing up in the hospitalization and death stats? And if not, why not?
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:29 PM
 
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Meh. The study used has been debunked.

It was from India. The vaccine is one not used in the USA. The study was rejected during peer review.
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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Only happens on the rare occasion when a vaxxed person contracts the virus.
You jest, eh? They are carrying and spreading the virus at a higher rate. Since these folks are vaccinated they are no longer going in for testing. That means they are likely undetected super spreaders since the vaccine doesn’t cure COVID-19.
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:39 PM
 
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Is that actually true? And is it showing up in the hospitalization and death stats? And if not, why not?

It is actually. Deaths are way up. #3 cause of death now in the USA and rising. Last two days 450 deaths a day. We were at 200 a day just a couple weeks ago.



Why? Well pretty obvious.
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:41 PM
 
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You jest, eh? They are carrying and spreading the virus at a higher rate. Since these folks are vaccinated they are no longer going in for testing. That means they are likely undetected super spreaders since the vaccine doesn’t cure COVID-19.

No that is not likely. But us vaccinated are very unlikely to get sick or die from Delta.
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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It is actually. Deaths are way up. #3 cause of death now in the USA and rising. Last two days 450 deaths a day. We were at 200 a day just a couple weeks ago.



Why? Well pretty obvious.
Yet deaths are down about 70% from this time last year (when we also saw a summer bump), looking at 7-day averages. Doesn't seem particularly scary.
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:16 PM
 
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It's worth noting that there's a distinction (that isn't being drawn in the prevailing narrative) between detectable viral loads and capacity for viral shedding among the masses — for which the data is suspiciously absent. And for the record, I'm happy to withdrawal my skepticism upon such data, fully-vetted, becoming available. The CDC's current formulation, as far as I'm aware, relies up a now-withdrawn study from India, and with a vaccine whose efficacy isn't approved for use in the United States, being used as the basis for drawing the aforementioned public health conclusion.
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:44 PM
 
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No, vaccinated individuals are carrying higher levels of virus THAN PREVIOUSLY UNDERSTOOD.

That does not mean that they’re carrying more virus than unvaccinated people.
Carrying the same as unvaccinated according to Walensky:

"According to unpublished data, vaccinated people who get infected with Delta variant carry the same viral load as those who are unvaccinated, " said Walensky.

https://www.ibtimes.sg/delta-variant...ted-data-59164
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