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If you read that statement at face value, it tells you that having and recovering from Covid provides enough immunity that it is setting the standard for vaccine immunity.
No, the same argument can't be made about vaccines because they don't kill 2 percent of the people who get them. As for natural immunity, I didn't say that people who get COVID don't develop some natural immunity. I said some people who have natural immunity can get COVID again just like some people who have been vaccinated can get COVID.
You'll essentially ignore it like you did BruSan's post. But there have, in fact, been studies that show immunization is actually more protective than natural immunity.
"This report details the findings of a case-control evaluation of the association between vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 reinfection in Kentucky during May–June 2021 among persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 in 2020. Kentucky residents who were not vaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated (odds ratio [OR] = 2.34; 95% confidence interval [CI] = 1.58–3.47)."
Bull****. That is just a flat-out lie. The "vaccine" does not protect people from being infected from the virus, as is well known now. Of course this "study" presents otherwise.
This study does not scientifically establish that people have been re-infected with this virus. Just because they say so, does not make it so. We know that the tests diagnosing these infections are notorious for their unreliability and their tendency to produce an enormous number of false positives.
I challenge you to produce a scientific study that rigorously establishes that there is any significant pattern and practice of people getting re-infected with this virus. The document that you linked certainly does not do that.
That so-called study is a disgrace to the CDC and the entire field of science. Some of these people should be jailed for their deceitfulness, and their violation and abuse of the public trust. The harm they are causing is truly immense.
You people are so recklessly irresponsible, it can hardly be overstated.
People board flights every day knowing there is a chance the plane could crash.
Seriously? Of course a plane can crash but if the chance of landing safely was only 99% we would have plane crashes much more often. Would you take off in a plane that only had a 99% of landing?
Seriously? Of course a plane can crash but if the chance of landing safely was only 99% we would have plane crashes much more often. Would you take off in a plane that only had a 99% of landing?
I can name 4 plane crashes off the top of my head where all or the vast majority of passengers survived.
BA38 (0), AF358 (0), US1549(0), OZ214 (3).
Just because a plane crashes doesn't mean it nosedives into the ground leaving a fireball of death behind. Of those 4, AF358 actually blew up. In OZ214, one of the dead passengers survived the crash but was run over by a fire engine on the scene.
Most of the people on the Covid task force are doctors. But fine, I'll settle for a degree in epidemiology as well. Which one do you have? Personally, I don't have either, which is why I rely on the overwhelming consensus of the professionals that do.
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And the epidemiologists have been utterly useless during the pandemic. That's not a criticism of them, since this epidemic was unprecedented in many ways. It's a criticism of you for not understanding that there's no reason to respect their opinions.
I won't waste my time responding to such idiocy from someone who evidently lacks a fundamental understanding of scientific process. Have a good day.
It has not been established in a scientifically rigorous manner that anyone has actually had covid twice. All of the reports are anecdotal. Here are a few of the explanations for why these reports are very likely wrong in the vast majority of these incidents:
The tests are notorious for generating false positives and various results when taken repeatedly over a short time.
The symptoms of this virus are remarkably similar to the flu for most people who get it, at least the ones who have any symptoms at all. That is a fact.
There is also the possibility that some people who reported having had covid twice (without that being confirmed in a scientifically rigorous manner) could have just not gotten over their initial bout with it in some cases.
Another explanation is that some people may have sufficiently compromised and weak immune systems that they are not capable of mounting a vigorous immunity response.
And we also know that dead virus fragments can linger in the body thus producing positive test results in those who previously had the virus
These are just a few of the explanations why these anecdotal reports are very likely not reliable indicators of the typical or the expected immunity response to this virus.
It is remarkable to me that people like you who posture and pretend to be big believers in science, really either do not know what science is, or you do not truly care about the scientific veracity of these sorts of questions at all.
There has been NO scientifically rigorous research done that supports the conjecture that people can typically (in anything other than very rare instances) get covid twice.
So instead of believing those few proven examples of it happening and the few studies that have been done - by professionals - I should instead believe someone like yourself who postures about everything.
https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-br...02/reinfection And again; a group of nursing home residents tested positive, some were asymptomatic and who then later tested negative, once again became infected, some of whom died.
ARTICLE: Floridians Are Turning on Ron DeSantis as Covid Deaths Hit Record High
[i]"Covid-19 is obliterating Florida.
The Sunshine State comfortably leads the nation in average daily cases, average daily hospitalizations, and average daily deaths, according to The New York Times.
This isn’t just because of its large population. Florida also leads the nation in hospitalizations per capita, and trails on Louisiana and Mississippi in cases per capita and deaths per capita. Last week, the state reported more new cases and more deaths than at any other point during the pandemic....
DeSantis is not pausing, though.
Despite the soaring rates of Covid cases, hospitalizations, and deaths, the governor appears as committed as ever to opposing preventative measures and endangering the health of — or, frankly, flat-out killing — the people he represents.
“Politicians wanna force you to cover your face as a way for them to cover their own a****,” he said at an event last week.
It’s a clever little line.
We doubt the families of the 212 Floridians who died per day last week were amused."
What covid related medical measures is Governor DeSantis actually opposing? He's for the vaccines, he's for therapies like Regeneron, and he's for people wearing masks if they chose to and he for private schools if parents think their children shouldn't wear a mask but the public school says they must... and he's willing to let government move funds to pay for that.
What he against is ... lock downs, mandates, and job killing bio medical security mandates the federal government wishes to employ.
DeSantis is not allowing counties do what they feel is necessary to protect their citizens, as far as mask mandates...
and he's imposing financial punishment if they cross him.
That is the definition of authoritarian government.
"enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom...."
He really is a lot like Trump.
10 Florida School Districts are Defying DeSantis’ Mask Mandate Ban
"The state is expected to punish Broward and Alachua counties for their mask mandates in the coming days by revoking an amount of funding equivalent to their school board members’ salaries. The state gave the counties an ultimatum that they would withhold the funding if they didn’t drop their mask mandate by Tuesday, which both counties have refused to do.
The rash of counties that have followed in their footsteps are likely to face consequences as well, with Christina Pushaw, spokesperson for Gov. Ron DeSantis, telling Forbes in an email last week school board members “found to be in violation of state law will face consequences.”
DeSantis is not allowing counties do what they feel is necessary to protect citizens, as far as mask mandates...
and he's imposing punishment if they cross him.
That is the definition of authoritarian government.
"enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom...."
He really is a lot like Trump.
Defying DeSantis’ Mask Mandate Ban
"The state is expected to punish Broward and Alachua counties for their mask mandates in the coming days by revoking an amount of funding equivalent to their school board members’ salaries. The state gave the counties an ultimatum that they would withhold the funding if they didn’t drop their mask mandate by Tuesday, which both counties have refused to do. The rash of counties that have followed in their footsteps are likely to face consequences as well, with Christina Pushaw, spokesperson for Gov. Ron DeSantis, telling Forbes in an email last week school board members “found to be in violation of state law will face consequences.”
You have it completely backwards. See here's the thing, PEOPLE, specifically parents.... have the responsibility, the authority, and the RIGHT to parent. When you protect those RIGHTS that's not authoritarian. What is authoritarian ? ...trying to BLOCK or eliminate those rights or limit those rights that already exist.
That's the truth and you have it completely backwards. I'll even say you know this to be true, but prefer the government to RULE over parents.
PS... so he's not really opposing any medical options since you didn't list any.
You have it completely backwards. See here's the thing, PEOPLE, specifically parents.... have the responsibility, the authority, and the RIGHT to parent. When you protect those RIGHTS that's not authoritarian. What is authoritarian ? ...trying to BLOCK or eliminate those rights or limit those rights that already exist.
That's the truth and you have it completely backwards. I'll even say you know this to be true, but prefer the government to RULE over parents.
and this is the definition of GASLIGHTING.
facts speak for themselves.
WC out
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