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Old 07-31-2021, 01:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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As amazing as bacon tastes, let’s be honest, it’s just not good for you at all.

Sometimes people need to be saved from themselves.

Eat healthier, live long and prosper. Covid can’t get you if you are healthy in the first place.
Really???? So no healthy people have died from covid? Are you also a flat-earther?

I don't eat bacon so I don't care what happens to bacon and bacon prices, but don't issue absolutes that healthy people can't get covid.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:01 PM
 
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Agree. It's also why I've been growing my own meat and poultry. I at least know for sure it's going to have a good life before making the ultimate sacrifice.
It produces better meat. Meat is the animals' muscles. If an animal is extremely stressed, their muscles are more tense. The meat gets tougher.

Pork isn't kosher anyway, of course, but killing an animal in a more humane way where the animal isn't as stressed produces better food.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:01 PM
 
Location: In the middle of nowhere... and enjoying it
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Sometimes people need to be saved from themselves.
So much for free will. We must conform.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:03 PM
 
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I'm no progressive or vegetarian, but if you can't give an animal a bearable life before you kill it and eat it, something's wrong.
Agree 100%.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Trader Joes already sells crate free pork

https://sustainablefoodnews.com/trad...omer-concerns/
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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It produces better meat. Meat is the animals' muscles. If an animal is extremely stressed, their muscles are more tense. The meat gets tougher.

Pork isn't kosher anyway, of course, but killing an animal in a more humane way where the animal isn't as stressed produces better food.
Religious requirements for meat are often made exempt from animal cruelty laws. Kosher and Halal meat have the animal bled out while alive to meet the religious standards. How much stress does a slit throat while hung upside down cause a large animal like sheep, goats and cows? Pneumatic kill guns (or rifles) to the head of a standing animal are very fast and humane kills.

The California laws in question are about the animal upbringing more than the slaughter.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Religious requirements for meat are often made exempt from animal cruelty laws. Kosher and Halal meat have the animal bled out while alive to meet the religious standards. How much stress does a slit throat cause an animal?
I don't know, but the animals are kept in good conditions until the animal is killed. A lifetime of stress versus one short moment is quite different.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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I thought "they" decided bacon in moderation was okay. Something about 50% being the same fat that's in olive oil or something.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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Bacon may disappear in California as pig rules take effect

With luck, the excess supply will mean cheaper prices for the rest of the country.
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Old 07-31-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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As much as I hate California’s waxky politics. I can’t leave it.
I have family and friends in CA too but the economics of living there was a dealbreaker, before I even go to the realm of the waxky politics (the two are inextricably linked though). I like nice things and they cost money. Can't have nice things when I'm spending 70% of my income paying someone else's mortgage

As for these pig rules, if there was a market for that kind of pork, someone somewhere would have filled it, I bet at a much higher price than normal pork, and made a killing. But to mandate it is patently ridiculous and accomplishes nothing but raise the cost of food.

For the record, I eat organic and grass-fed and pasture-raised (whatever those terms mean) wherever possible (and so does my cat) and the eggs in my fridge are either free range or organic. But for me, it's a matter of taste, and I can afford it lol. Has nothing to do with any kind of virtue signaling. Not everyone's as fortunate.
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