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Old 08-01-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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Explain this please. Interesting in exactly what ways?
Homewood-Flossmor, so it wasn't all knife and gun club!
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Old 08-01-2021, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Covid doesn’t put you on a ventilator in the ICU, being morbidly obese does that.

The average healthy human immune system is more than enough to fight covid, including kids and toddlers.
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Old 08-01-2021, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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They were filling up with obese people before the vaccines, and yet we didn't have a campaign blaming the obese for filling up the hospitals. We built tent hospitals, got a hospital ship in NY, and converted the Javits center for them. Because it is morally repugnant to not care for sick people, regardless of why they are sick. Now somehow it's okay to blame sick people for taking up hospital space.

Meanwhile, in my county they have fully disassembled the tent hospitals that cost 15 million to build. I hope they don't complain about not having enough beds if we get another surge. Or about having a shortage of health care workers, when they fire those who don't want the shots.
Did we suddenly have an increase in diabetic people over a few weeks. There is an expense in maintaining capacity for people that refuse to get a readily available free vaccine, that makes no sense to add capacity in advance although that's where we may end up because some lack common sense.
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Old 08-01-2021, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Covid doesn’t put you on a ventilator in the ICU, being morbidly obese does that.

The average healthy human immune system is more than enough to fight covid, including kids and toddlers.
You should really consider visiting an ICU.
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Old 08-01-2021, 03:49 PM
 
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Covid doesn’t put you on a ventilator in the ICU, being morbidly obese does that.
Plenty of normal weight people with Covid on vents that aren't elderly. Covid CAN put you on a vent in the ICU and can kill you, even if you aren't obese or old.
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Old 08-01-2021, 04:00 PM
 
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Did we suddenly have an increase in diabetic people over a few weeks. There is an expense in maintaining capacity for people that refuse to get a readily available free vaccine, that makes no sense to add capacity in advance although that's where we may end up because some lack common sense.
Back to the same ridiculous circular argument. You can keep gaslighting all you want. There are 14 million immunocompromised people, 34 million diabetics, over 100 million obese people, and children (all of which either can't take the vaccine or are severely compromised). You are not going to vaccinate your way out of this. It makes perfect sense to add capacity and we have been well below needed levels for the last year and a half. Sorry, you're simply wrong, but clearly no amount of explaining this to you is going to work because you simply ignore the comment and/or pretend not to understand it.
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Old 08-01-2021, 05:13 PM
 
Location: NY
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Did we suddenly have an increase in diabetic people over a few weeks. There is an expense in maintaining capacity for people that refuse to get a readily available free vaccine, that makes no sense to add capacity in advance although that's where we may end up because some lack common sense.
The people who filled up the hospital beds are obese:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covi...-or-obese.html

There is an expense to maintaining capacity for people who refuse to eat right and exercise. Sarcasm there, to illustrate how morally repugnant it is to suggest it is too expensive to maintain hospital space for sick people because they didn't get a shot.
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Old 08-01-2021, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Kaliforneea
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Those of us that grew up watching MASH reruns, seem to intimately know that when the hospital runs out of space you just put 'em in a tent outside.


I've had half a dozen friends or acquaintences or family members with Coronavirus, only one has been hospitalized. All the rest, their instructions were to "go home and get plenty of rest. If you can't breathe, come back."



I cant tell you why for some people its just a flu, and other people are dead within a week. \_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 08-01-2021, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Back to the same ridiculous circular argument. You can keep gaslighting all you want. There are 14 million immunocompromised people, 34 million diabetics, over 100 million obese people, and children (all of which either can't take the vaccine or are severely compromised). You are not going to vaccinate your way out of this. It makes perfect sense to add capacity and we have been well below needed levels for the last year and a half. Sorry, you're simply wrong, but clearly no amount of explaining this to you is going to work because you simply ignore the comment and/or pretend not to understand it.
I was just pointing out that there wasn't a sudden surge in obese to the point where we needed additional beds. But continue with the fantasy that this is anything other than the unvaccinated pandemic. These are people that would otherwise not be in an hospital if they were vaccinated.

If you have something other than opinion I would love to see it.
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Old 08-01-2021, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The people who filled up the hospital beds are obese:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covi...-or-obese.html

There is an expense to maintaining capacity for people who refuse to eat right and exercise. Sarcasm there, to illustrate how morally repugnant it is to suggest it is too expensive to maintain hospital space for sick people because they didn't get a shot.
Obesity is nothing new, but now it's an excuse for the surge.
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