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Old 08-05-2021, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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uh huh. Straight out of the Nazi playbook. Accuse another race of the problems, and call them plague rats. Way to go.

Why? Because it works. People have a inherent bias against the "other" and it gets them to avoid personal responsibility for their failings. Meanwhile in reality the reason were getting a massive outbreak is because Republican governors are trying to pretend the pandemic isnt a thing, and playing politics with a health issue. PERIOD.

The illegals? a drop in the bucket. We already had the virus here, and its spreading like wildfire because a whole bunch of folks are listening to idiotic propaganda that says they shouldnt take the vaccine.

Quit blaming others for our failure as a country.
We have some broad overlap.

I do find the irony kind of disturbing...the same folks who spent so much time and energy downplaying Rona in the first place are now the ones shouting that the sky is falling really: Rona...becuz Illegals.

Those of us who don’t possess the goldfish-like memory of some voters are now sitting here befuddled by the gall it takes the right to try crossing a bridge they’ve already burned.

It’s also a shame because although I’m fairly lefty on immigration, the disease angle has always been a strong reason why I do want an orderly, controlled border. It’s frustrating to watch the right make a mockery of what is otherwise an important point for why we want a controlled border to begin with.
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:45 PM
 
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Couldn't have anything to do with all the crazy people who refuse to get vaccinated?
And some of them even refuse to wear masks (great combo there!)

I guess infections are up world wide due to our 'illegals' also.
It might be a contributing factor but only a fool would deny that allowing Covid infected migrants into our country is also a factor and maybe even more so. Funny how so many in here deflect to the unvaccinated Americans though. At least they have a right to be in our country but knowingly bringing Covid infected foreigners into our country which increases the spread is inexcusable.
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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This is a no brained…. All these illegals, who are spreading out across the country are a huge part of the problem… WITHOUT QUESTION.

As for the problem of not getting more and more Americans vaccinated, it’s a Biden fault since his administration is constantly sending out mixed messaging. Plus, during the 2020 election process, both Biden and Harris openly questioned the safety and effectiveness of “Trump’s vaccine. Yes, it was politics, but now, playing politics has consequences… Just like elections.

I’m vaccinated, but I’m too happy with proving your vaccination to strangers to gain entry to businesses, but it is what it is since, again, “elections have consequences” and unfortunately this is going to hurt far more Black people than White people. Being half Black, I understand why many Black people are cautious with government vaccinations.

If Biden, Harris or whoever is really running the country is smart, they would quite making this a political issue AND be fully honest with the people instead of threatening people with basically expulsion from society. Until this is done, it’s not going to change too much.

As for forcing the entire military and most federal employees to get a vaccination, this is going to blow up in the Biden’ Administration’s face since this will cause issues in the ranks by forcing people to make a decision about staying in the military then the military is currently facing a manpower issue AND China is basically on the March in Asia by claiming everything is theirs and the Iranians are acting up in the Persian Gulf by attacking shipping… Again.

Biden said he could fix this, which was pure political BS, but now it’s his problem to fix and he’s not doing a good job at it and it’s now reflecting in his approval numbers. Honestly, I’m just happy that Biden didn’t put Harris in charge of the Covid issue since, like on the border issue, a self inflected issue, she’s Missing in Action and hiding from her responsibilities to all the American people.
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:55 PM
 
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I know, right. No one died from Covid under Trump, right?
Your snarkiness is duly noted. Of course people died from Covid while Trump was president but at least he wasn't allowing foreigners into our country unabated and that had Covid themselves already. Don't play dumb here!
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yesterday we have three times the infections than India with 112,279 new cases in one day.


We have more deaths than India . 656 deaths. And this is with 90 % of people 65 and older vaccinated. Then we have over 36 million Americans with natural immunity because they had covid. That is over 10% with natural immunity.

Click on Yesterday...for the numbers.. todays numbers are not in yet.





https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#repro
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:16 PM
 
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Our infection rate is higher then the rate of those coming from these other countries. Basically if you have to pick between being in a room with 10 folks from Florida, or being in the room from 10 immigrants, pick the immigrants. You will be safer.

But sure, its THOSE people, not us. Look at the link Taratova provided here, and sort by rate per 1 million. We are the 17th worst out of 222.

If you look at countries only on the N american continent, the only places worse then us are. St Barth-population 9.910, and Aruba population 107,261.
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Since Biden Opened The Gates To Infected Illegals , Cases Are Drastically Up!


SHHH you are not supposed to notice that let alone talk about it. The narrative is that the Trump Anti Vax Deplorable Neanderthals are causing the covid cases to go up.



Come on man! now get with the narrative and get on board this wagon because we are all heading to the cliff edge whether you like it or not.
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Old 08-05-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia/South Jersey area
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Yesterday we have three times the infections than India with 112,279 new cases in one day.


We have more deaths than India . 656 deaths. And this is with 90 % of people 65 and older vaccinated. Then we have over 36 million Americans with natural immunity because they had covid. That is over 10% with natural immunity.

Click on Yesterday...for the numbers.. todays numbers are not in yet.





https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#repro

so you're original post makes absolutely no sense. simple math means that our dismal performance is not because of "illegals". it's from our own stupidity ESPECIALLY in states like Mississippi and Florida.

cases are up for one reason. delta variant is much more contagious and Americans refuse to get vaccinated and didn't take it serious. still dont
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Of course they're up, and it was just common sense that this would happen but I'm guessing it was done so they can have another lockdown.
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Old 08-06-2021, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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so you're original post makes absolutely no sense. simple math means that our dismal performance is not because of "illegals". it's from our own stupidity ESPECIALLY in states like Mississippi and Florida.

cases are up for one reason. delta variant is much more contagious and Americans refuse to get vaccinated and didn't take it serious. still dont
And the illegals have 27 times more cases of covid than what Americans had in the US..
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