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Old 08-07-2021, 10:51 PM
 
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How else do you reduce this type of gun trafficking from southern states to northern states?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FSTKPSAE78&t=17s
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Old 08-07-2021, 10:56 PM
 
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I read about something similar with Mississippi and Chicago. Many of the guns used in Chicago's gang wars are coming from Mississippi through similar connections. Mississippi gun laws make gun access easier.

A pistol bought in Mississippi killed a teen in Chicago
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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How about...no. Blaming other states for one’s own restrictions is a cop out. Seems like not that long ago, Mayor Lightfoot was (more realistically) blaming neighboring Indiana in the same way. So, maybe the problem isn’t the supply of guns, it’s the demand for guns...? Particularly the demand for using them in the worst way? I don’t know why it isn’t obvious that you’d want to curb murder by tackling the reasons why anybody wants to murder in the first place. Going after the instrument of murder is a poor band-aid and punishes great swaths of law-abiding people as fallout.

I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want to keep folks from feeling like they want to commit murder anyway. I’m not a great moralizer, in general, but something’s obviously wrong when you see a number of folks wanting to take somebody else’s life. It doesn’t matter what instrument they use.
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Old 08-08-2021, 12:34 AM
 
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I wonder what most ATF agents would recommend?
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Old 08-08-2021, 12:42 AM
 
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I don’t know why it isn’t obvious that you’d want to curb murder by tackling the reasons why anybody wants to murder in the first place. Going after the instrument of murder is a poor band-aid and punishes great swaths of law-abiding people as fallout.
So should all gun restrictions be eliminated and simply focus on the "psychology" of criminal behavior as the solution?

Tackling the psychology of why people want to murder sounds very complex and complicated.
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Old 08-08-2021, 12:52 AM
 
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Laws passed for controlling guns only hurt the Law abiding and never the criminal.
Makes it harder for to defend one’s self, family, and sometimes others.
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:46 AM
 
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Laws passed for controlling guns only hurt the Law abiding and never the criminal.

Makes it harder for to defend one’s self, family, and sometimes others.
So what's the solution for stopping the gun trafficking in that video?
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Many legislators, nationwide, would dearly love to crack down on gun ownership, but every time they even think about angering the NRA, they vote without a clear conscience!

Do you realize that a bullet wound can cost taxpayers close to $150,000 to $200,000 per operation?
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Here's a novel idea. I don't know why no one has thought of this before. Why not just make gun trafficking illegal? Or better yet, just make gun crime illegal. Poof - problem solved.

Or just ban the rappers.
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:59 AM
 
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