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Old 08-17-2021, 12:24 PM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 7 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by dman72 View Post
Because it isn't a war. They are not attacking the airport in mass because at least some of their leaders are adhering to the deal. Of course, at lot of them are fanatics so having some rogue nuts trying to kill Americans despite the "deal" shouldn't shock anyone.

No American citizen without a gun and a kevlar should be left there at this point, that's for sure.
Exactly. It doesn't appear, at all, that the Taliban wants to start a war with the US.

That's the stuff of rebels. The Taliban are now the legitimate rulers of their country.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:24 PM
 
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Oh, I see. They shot a bunch of the Soviet planes during take offs back in that war time. Sorry, I didn’t realize there was a subtle difference between the military presences. Judging by plentiful videos of outright fights between mudjaheddin and American forces, it’s easy to get confused.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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No not a stupid question and where is their personal responsibility..
....they are probably all liberals


(or expected a functioning president to have a plan to get American citizens out before he withdrew all the troops.....and then had to send thousands of troops back)
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:26 PM
 
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I have a stupid question.
Why were all those Americans there to start with and why Taliban are allowing to airlift them? I apologize for cold question but this is reality of war. You do not allow any air traffic from enemy in city you captured.
Don't know ans for the first one. NO one says Taliban allows the US to airlift all of them. US evacuates people who are at the airport or NATO base now. The US needs to negotiate with the Taliban for the rest of those Americans who are not at the airport. It is because all access points to the airport are guarded by armed Taliban fighters. Over 6000 US troops at the airport are for some reasons
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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There has not been a single American death in Afghanistan for 18 months now, thanks to Trump putting the fear of God into the hearts of the Taliban.

Now, compare the safety of Afghanistan to any number of large Democrat controlled cities like Chicago.
BS.

Trump and Pompeo made a deal with the Taliban.

Pompeo even went back after the election to confirm it.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:27 PM
 
Location: NC
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The country supports the decision to pullout from Afghanistan.

It's the way it was handled that has people pissed off.

You don't pull the troops before getting tens of thousand of American civilians out......

You don't leave all of our equipment for the enemy to use against us......

And you sure as heck don't pull all the troops at once. It has to be staggered so you don't create a power vacuum.

Why is this so hard to understand?
You don't pull the troops before getting tens of thousand of American civilians out......
I don't, you probably don't, but Trump said he should have done it even sooner.
Even "more before" getting the Americans out.

You don't leave all of our equipment for the enemy to use against us......
Trump did in Syria. Did you complain
That's how it goes, never good, and always bad optics, but that's the way it goes.

And you sure as heck don't pull all the troops at once. It has to be staggered so you don't create a power vacuum.
They were staggered, reduced since Obama
Trump increased (against his promise), then decreased, net was pretty much no change
When Biden executed Trump's plan, we were below 5% of peak. Lots of staggering already done.



It is not hard to understand at all. I totally agree with you.

What is hard for most of us to understand is that you people with TDS are trying to Blame Biden. You were silent when Trump did the same, and you cheered when Trump scorned Biden for pulling the troops too slowly.

There is nothing that Biden can do to please you. TDS may have been real, but you can't honestly try to convince anyone that BDS isn't much stronger. If you hated it so much, why are you not only doing the same thing again, but doing it even stronger?

The media is being much harder on Biden than they were on Trump too. Where's your pity? Watch NBC or any major network, not Newsmax and CNN. The legit Media is being more biased than they were for Trump. They are just getting under the radar because Biden is not throwing a tantrump about it.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:29 PM
 
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Yes, Taliban was definitely pacified under Trump. Compared to 20 years ago and the years under Obama, Trump did a tremendous job with Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria and the Middle East in general. Everything was just beginning to come together but of course the dumb American public decided things were too good and voted in Biden instead.
That is so much BS. The Taliban were quietly taking over cities while Trump was negotiating with them to remove our troops out within a year. 'Ol bones spurs knew we were losing everywhere and did nothing about it. Many times he said the US should pull out of all these foreign countries and let them fend for themselves. He could care less. He's kissed every leaders butt trying to make himself look good in the eyes of the far right wingers. He's lined up business deals with Kim, Putin, Xing and others. Trump's a me me me egotistical lying SOB.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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It’s awfully lots of Americans to be there for a “limited contingent “ support. All cooks and laundry folk? I somehow doubt it was a tourist Mekka lately.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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Originally Posted by MummyofAnkha1969 View Post
The country supports the decision to pullout from Afghanistan.

It's the way it was handled that has people pissed off.

You don't pull the troops before getting tens of thousand of American civilians out......

You don't leave all of our equipment for the enemy to use against us......

And you sure as heck don't pull all the troops at once. It has to be staggered so you don't create a power vacuum.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Largely agree, but however the troops were pulled out there would have been a power vacuum as the Afghan government fled and the Afghan "armed forces" gave up.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MummyofAnkha1969 View Post
The country supports the decision to pullout from Afghanistan.

It's the way it was handled that has people pissed off.

You don't pull the troops before getting tens of thousand of American civilians out......

You don't leave all of our equipment for the enemy to use against us......

And you sure as heck don't pull all the troops at once. It has to be staggered so you don't create a power vacuum.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Shhh... Don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of their Trump blaming, even almost a year later...
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