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Ask Trump and Pompeo what were their reasons for trusting the Taliban who Pompeo said was led by a "gentleman"
Biden made the same stupid decision they did.
Donald Trump isn't president and isn't overseeing the withdrawal. Joe Biden is.
Now if you're saying that Joe Biden is too stupid, incompetent and clueless to put on his big-boy Depends and do the job of being President and Commander and Chief, then we agree. If you're telling me that the Biden Admin is completely incapable of doing anything on their own and that they're just mindlessly following Trump's preset plan, and that they are completely incapable of thinking for themselves -- in principal you're right. they really are that stupid and incompetent. But since we were not out by May 1st, we know for a fact that we are not executing Trump's plan.
So somewhere between naptimes and mumbling incoherently, Biden apparently rewrote the enter exit strategy. That means he owns 100% of it. It's fairly obvious that he wanted to own all the credit. He even goes so far as to imply that leaving Afghanistan was entirely his idea. By setting the last day to 9/11 he no doubt believed that the whole withdrawal would be a host of victory parades and acclamations of a job well done. He wanted all the positive credit and made sure to own the whole withdrawal. Now he gets all the blame for the most botched series of diplomatic and military decisions we've seen in at least a century.
Getting out is the right decision. The way it was done is a complete disaster. Thanks Joe Biden!!
Sorry, you didn't like the facts. Would you like another fact: that army was close to 300 thousand men. Do you know how much weaponry it takes to arm them?
The Taliban has been taking military equipment for themselves since January.
The Afghan army didn't even fight back. The US did NOTHING.
This is not the first country where the US just left behind all their equipment.
Donald Trump isn't president and isn't overseeing the withdrawal. Joe Biden is.
Now if you're saying that Joe Biden is too stupid, incompetent and clueless to put on his big-boy Depends and do the job of being President and Commander and Chief, then we agree. If you're telling me that the Biden Admin is completely incapable of doing anything on their own and that they're just mindlessly following Trump's preset plan, and that they are completely incapable of thinking for themselves -- in principal you're right, but since we were not out by May 1st, we know for a fact that we are not executing Trump's plan.
So somewhere between naptimes and mumbling incoherently, Biden apparently rewrote the enter exit strategy. That means he owns 100% of it. It's fairly obvious that he wanted to own all the credit. He even goes so far as to imply that leaving Afghanistan was entirely his idea. By setting the last day to 9/11 he no doubt believed that the whole withdrawal would be a host of victory parades and acclamations of a job well done. He wanted all the positive credit and made sure to own the whole withdrawal. Now he gets all the blame for the most botched series of diplomatic and military decisions we've seen in at least a century.
Getting out is the right decision. The way it was done is a complete disaster. Thanks Joe Biden!!
I have never excused Biden's part in this....not one post. He botched the withdraw....period. I don't believe you can take 20 years of incompetent Afghan policy and lay it on Joe alone though. There are alot of fingerprints on this thing.
The Taliban has been taking military equipment for themselves since January.
The Afghan army didn't even fight back. The US did NOTHING.
This is not the first country where the US just left behind all their equipment.
Do you really think the US military planned to take equipment with them? We were hoping they were going to fight, why would we take their equipment. The second reason is it is not practical to move equipment out of a place like Afghanistan. The only thing the US might move out would be aircraft if we thought the Afghans were not capable of effectively using the aircraft. From what I have read, we did not leave them with enough spare parts and ammunition.
I have never excused Biden's part in this....not one post. He botched the withdraw....period. I don't believe you can take 20 years of incompetent Afghan policy and lay it on Joe alone though. There are alot of fingerprints on this thing.
Happy to blame George W for being a warmongering dumbass. He should have realized that Bin Laden was gone and gotten out. Happy to equally blame Obama for increasing our military commitment even after our entire reason for being there -- kill Bin Laden and Al Qeda -- had already been accomplished. Trump certainly had four years to get us out and should have gotten it done. He didn't. All that I grant you.
But it absolutely blows my mind how badly Joe Biden has handled this withdrawal. Neolibs and Neocons are both warmongers, so it wouldn't surprise me if they're all screwing it up on purpose as an excuse to re-invade and continue the endless occupation of Afghanistan. If a few thousand US civilians are executed by the Taliban, that might make it inevitable.
Agreed, but I'm pretty sure it is the first time we stranded thousands of US civilians in the process of withdrawing.
But Biden had no problem getting Afghan refugees here to the US.
Maybe after they rescue all the Afghan refugees they will go back for the Americans.
It's almost like Biden forgot about Americans with his casual "just get to the airport and we'll take you home"...as if those Americans could just call an Uber and go.
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Dems got big problems now....between Biden's botched Covid response and losing the war in Afghanistan to a militia group, their support is approaching zero. He's viewed as an ole fool at this point, nothing more.
On top of that - he's going to CA to campaign for Newsome - those Dems that hate Newsome won't look at Biden favorably.
Agreed, but I'm pretty sure it is the first time we stranded thousands of US civilians in the process of withdrawing.
Define US civilians. I highly doubt we have stranded thousands of US citizens in Afghanistan.
I'm hearing there may be a few hundred US civilians still in the country. These are mostly Green Card holders who were visiting relatives.
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