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The only politician that made the right decision in the last 40 years was H.W. Bush. This withdrawal was not well planned out and they had 20 years to prepare. Trump also wanted to pull out and this could easily have happened on his watch.
We all knew this was going to be ugly no matter how it was done, is a slow train wreck better than one that is rapid. Vietnam, Iraq all misguided, time to take a close look at our military decisions.
It's not looking good for ol' Boe Jiden, but senility is a great cover-up for stupidity.
It's amazing that he's this bad at his job. Actually, no, he's not, because he's incapable of doing this job. The former Obama stooges that were left behind when that turd left office are the ones that are that bad at their jobs. I'm sure they are calling the shots.
Something tells me this week is going to be really interesting. People on both sides of the isle are getting fed up with Grandpa Stupid.
100% Biden owns this. His handlers right now are looking for any way to coordinate with the state run media to blame someone else. Give it a few days and they will have their narrative down pat!
Something tells me that Kamala Harris is going to get the blame for this. She hasn't been seen in quite a while, and nothing she's ever tasked with ever improves.
Even the Democrats -- as largely ignorant as they are -- realize that Kamala Harris is a legit moron, not just someone who cackles occasionally. She's stupid through and through.
Interesting to me that the USA has not won a major shooting war since 1945. Korea could be called a win, but it was basically a standoff. Numerous people, including Secretary of State Dulles, wanted to go into the North to liberate the entire Korean peninsula, but Ike said no.
Vietnam was clearly a loss for the US as were Afghanistan and Iraq. Our few wins were things like Grenada and Panama (I still don't get why we went to Panama). The Cold War was a tremendous victory, but was won by Reagan without having to fire a shot.
Prior to 1945, the US won, or was on the winning side of every major war: the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War (approx 1846), WWI, and WWII.
Yeah, the efforts to blame Trump for this move are pure stupidity. Biden ultimately made the decision to withdraw. And he didn't even follow the Trump plan to the letter.
To be clear, I don't think we'd be seeing a whole lot different if Trump initiated the withdrawal as far too many in Afghanistan don't seem to actually want democracy but rather the Sharia.
Still, Trump ain't in office so he gets zero blame for this.
"Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace interviews former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about his role in the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan.
The Taliban has rapidly retaken control of Afghanistan as the U.S. and its allies have withdrawn their troops from the country. The February 2020 peace deal with the Taliban leading to the withdrawal was signed under former President Donald Trump and spearheaded by Pompeo, who suggested at the time that the Taliban would become partners with the U.S. to fight terrorism.
During an interview with Fox News Sunday, Pompeo said it was "pathetic blame shifting" for Biden and White House officials to point out that they had inherited the peace deal from the Trump administration. The former Trump administration official argued that Biden had "utterly failed" by withdrawing the U.S. troops.
Wallace pushed back, pointing out that prominent military officials and leading Republicans had been highly critical of the deal made under Trump's and Pompeo's leadership.
"But I have to say, it isn't just President Biden who says this. When we announced that you were going to be a guest on this program, a former top military commander in Afghanistan and a current top Republican member of Congress both talked about the deal that the Trump administration and you negotiated back in 2020 with the Taliban, to pull out all U.S. forces," Wallace told Pompeo.
The Fox News host then played a clip of Trump defending the planned withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan while he was still president.
"Basically we're policemen right now. And we're not supposed to be policemen. We've been there for 19 years in Afghanistan. It's ridiculous," Trump said in that clip at the White House.
"Critics say that for the U.S.to cut a deal with the Taliban without the Afghan government even in the room was hugely demoralizing and led inevitably to where we are today," Wallace said.
Pompeo insisted that this assessment was "simply not true." The former secretary of state also said that Wallace should "go read the deal, go read the conditions that were built into the deal." He asserted that the "Afghans were in the room."
Pompeo said he was "proud" of the work the Trump administration did to negotiate the deal.
"I just want to ask you one more question about your record though, sir," Wallace responded, pressing the issue. "You were the first American secretary of state to ever meet with the Taliban and you talked about how they had agreed to join us in the fight against terrorism."
The Fox News host then played a March 2020 clip of Pompeo saying that the Taliban had agreed to "work alongside of us to destroy, deny resources to and have [U.S. designated terrorist group] Al Qaeda depart from" Afghanistan.
"Do you regret giving the Taliban that legitimacy? Do you regret pressing the Afghan government to release 5,000 prisoners? Which they did, some of whom are now back on the battlefield fighting with the Taliban," Wallace asked Pompeo.
The former Trump administration official defended his record, saying "you make peace with your enemies." Pompeo remarked that his March 2020 statement "was absolutely true." He also said that the U.S. did "good work to crush Al Qaeda" during Trump's tenure in the White House.
Like Pompeo, Trump has attacked Biden as the Taliban has swiftly retaken control of Afghanistan.
"He ran out of Afghanistan instead of following the plan our Administration left for him—a plan that protected our people and our property, and ensured the Taliban would never dream of taking our Embassy or providing a base for new attacks against America. The withdrawal would be guided by facts on the ground," Trump said in a Saturday statement.
After Biden took office, he decided to follow through with the peace deal signed with the Taliban under Trump in February 2020. Biden actually extended the withdrawal deadline from May 1 to September 11, then later moved it forward to August 31.
Even as the Taliban has rapidly regained control of Afghanistan, Biden has defended the withdrawal. He has argued that the U.S. already accomplished its objectives in the county years ago by defeating Al Qaeda there and killing the group's leader Osama bin Laden.
The alleged masterminded of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against the U.S., bin Laden was killed in Pakistan in 2011 during former President Barack Obama's administration.
"I do not regret my decision," Biden said last week. "Afghan leaders have to come together. We lost thousands—lost to death and injury—thousands of American personnel. They've got to fight for themselves, fight for their nation."
Is there anything the Biden administration is doing right? Nope.
Inflation up
border crisis
Taliban running crazy.
all within ~7 months into the Bidens admin. Americas future looks terrible under these idiots.
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Any of that not gifted forward by the twice impeached orange baby tantrum?
Why yes, as a matter of fact.
Here's a chart showing the inflation rate from January 2017 (when Trump took office) until now. During Trump's entire term, the rate hovered around 2 percent. Notice how it shot upward right when Biden took office, and now it's up to 5.4 percent.
Now, here's a chart showing a proxy for illegal aliens crossing the Southern border. It shows 4 years, based on the federal fiscal year (which starts October 1 of the previous calendar year). Note the sudden increase starting February 2021, which "coincidentally" is the first full month of the Biden presidency.
As for the Taliban, notice that they did not conquer Afghanistan during the four years of Trump's presidency, yet they managed to do so just 7 month's into Biden's.
So yes, by these three metrics at least, Trump was doing things much, much better, and Biden messed them up immediately upon taking office.
#2 Biden approved of the withdrawal plan and Biden set the current plan that backfired into motion.
#3 Biden handicapped the Afghan air force, which was needed to help control the ground. Biden banned foreign maintenance contractors from entering Afghanistan and there was no one who could maintain the Afghan air force in the country.
I agree 100% Biden. He has already tried to change all sorts of things Trump put into motion. For some reason this was one thing he decided not to change and when it goes south he blames Trump.
One thing for sure if it had gone well he would not be crediting Trump at all.
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