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Old 10-04-2021, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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We should have left 10 years ago.
The 4 star generals disagree with you.
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Old 10-04-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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The 4 star generals disagree with you.
Of course they do.
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Old 10-04-2021, 12:09 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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That's OK with Biden. Like FDR, don't rock any boats!
It was OK with the previous administration, too. They negotiated the withdrawal agreement with the Taliban, not with the Afghanistan government that was in place at the time. The knew this was where we'd end up, as did anyone who bothered to look at the scenario realistically.
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Old 10-04-2021, 02:57 PM
 
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OP: Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal having devastating impact

More than 700 pages. Just stop.

Enough of denigrating and blaming Biden for a disaster set up by his predecessor.

There are far more pressing matters, today. But since you insist on using the past to point fingers, then start with Trump's decision to whittle the forces down to 2,500 --- a number that left in place would have been under attack and crushed by the Taliban on September 1. How about the disgraced and failed former guy's decision to bar the Afghanistan government from the 2020 Trump-Taliban negotiations? You know, where, among other deals & mistakes, 5,000 Taliban fighters were released?

BTW: Less than three months ago, Trump bragged that he “started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They, the Biden administration and Democrats can't stop the process.”

The current occupant of the White House is focused on this country. The last occupant was focused on himself and himself only. Get a clue.

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Old 10-04-2021, 03:23 PM
 
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OP: Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal having devastating impact

More than 700 pages. Just stop.

Enough of denigrating and blaming Biden for a disaster set up by his predecessor.

There are far more pressing matters, today. But since you insist on using the past, to point fingers and throw blame, then start with Trump's decision to whittle the forces down to 2,500 --- a number that left in place would have been under attack and crushed by the Taliban on September 1. How about the disgraced and failed former guy's decision to bar the Afghanistan government from the 2020 Trump-Taliban negotiations? You know, where, among other deals & mistakes, 5,000 Taliban fighters were released?

BTW: Less than three months ago, Trump bragged that he “started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They, the Biden administration and Democrats can't stop the process.”

The current occupant of the White House is focused on this country. The last occupant was focused on himself and himself only. Get a clue.
No you stop.

Trump started it, and biden changed the withdrawal date, to be cool, you know to 9/11/2021, which MEANS he defaulted on the entire agreement. Go ahead, prove to me that you can change a date for an agreement without the other side agreeing, I dare you to provide me facts that you can.

This is all bidens fault. He changed the agreement which means he could have changed everything else.

Our current president has no clue he is even there. But at least I called him Our President, which you failed to do.
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Old 10-04-2021, 05:29 PM
 
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No you stop.

Trump started it, and biden changed the withdrawal date, to be cool, you know to 9/11/2021, which MEANS he defaulted on the entire agreement. Go ahead, prove to me that you can change a date for an agreement without the other side agreeing, I dare you to provide me facts that you can.

This is all bidens fault. He changed the agreement which means he could have changed everything else.

Our current president has no clue he is even there. But at least I called him Our President, which you failed to do.
This mess jess was all Bush 2's fault.
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Old 10-04-2021, 07:57 PM
 
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All?

Not all. Obama should have begun the withdrawal the day after bin Laden was killed. That was the original Afghanistan mission.
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Old 10-05-2021, 05:08 AM
 
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All?
He started it to find OBL and we just let it go on and on for 20 years. We will be back jack.
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Old 10-05-2021, 07:16 AM
 
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Biden doesn't have to admit defeat. We lost when our first troops set foot on Afghan soil.

Get out, we created nothing. The government is corrupt, the army is warlords, ghost soldiers and drug addicts. The Chinese will fix it when things settle down.

Get out and stay out.
That’s usually the case with a lot of America’s wars. We wind up with nothing in the end but unnessasary losses. Tragic. Let the hardcore hardliners on the right go fight the war themselves. May the souls of the troops we lost Rest In Peace.
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Old 10-05-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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He started it to find OBL and we just let it go on and on for 20 years. We will be back jack.
Correct, we’ll be back again.

There’s way too much oil and terrorists for America to ever leave forever. Technically we never left as we still have bases around it and naval ships in the gulf.
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