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The J&J vaccine is more of a traditional, antibody creating vaccine. The others are NOT.
Where did you get your scientific information, a box of Cracker Jacks? The Pfizer and Moderna products are designed to elicit antibodies against the virus. That makes them vaccines.
No. At the time of their emergency approval, they were said to be ~95% effective. That means 5% will still get it, given the main variants circulating during the testing period.
At the time of your vaccination, it probably still is that efficacious. Unfortunately they have since discovered that your antibody count slowly declines over time; the effectiveness decreases by a few percent per month. However, your body is still protected by the B and T memory cells.
this is not necessarily true.
What they DID find, and they weren't surprised, is that antibodies often but not always decrease over time at varying speeds for the aged and immune-compromised, and for some with co-morbidities (diabetes was a chief one, IIRC). Some of this group had basically no protection after 3 or 6 months.
They tested/researched this based on early infections from Covid, from naturally-produced antibodies, long before the vaccines were available.
So now, when we hear that antibodies are often waning from the vaccinated 6+ months ago ... well, who was getting vaccinated 6+ months ago? The old and the immune-compromised (and the health care pros).
Did they at one time say you can’t get Covid if you are vaccinated?
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I thought I had heard that early in but not finding the reports on it.
I never heard that claim. The earliest I heard was that it would most likely keep you out of the hospital and keep you from getting seriously ill. You would have the virus and would be able to pass it on. It simply made it illness less serious.
Months before the vaccines were available I heard a epidemiologist, who was himself recovering from COVID, say that possibly what we should hope for is a vaccine that, if universally administered, would make the virus seem like a bad cold. You could get it but it would not be too bad and you could give it to someone else but they would also just experience mild cold-like symptoms. The universally administered part is the problem, as we have seen. He seemed to be hoping for a vaccine that would somehow change the genetic structure of the virus and convert it into a common cold coronavirus. Vaccinated humans would be the mechanism for defanging the COVID virus and it would eventually be rendered nearly harmless. We certainly are not there yet.
Fauci also told us if we got the jab we didn't have to wear the mask.
I am fairly certain this is not correct.
I do remember when he said "if you're over 65 and have been fully-vaccinated (and waited the 2-3 weeks), then it's OK to be inside with a small group of also fully-vaxxed people"
Now, Fauci did say no masks outside unless it was a packed crowd
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“We’ve got to make that transition,” Fauci told CBS’s This Morning. “If you are vaccinated, you don’t have to wear a mask outside.
“It would be a very unusual situation, if you were going into a completely crowded situation where people are essentially falling all over each other, then you wear a mask.
“But any other time, if you’re vaccinated and you’re outside, put aside your mask. You don’t have to wear it.”
I thought I had heard that early in but not finding the reports on it.
Who is “they”?
No vaccine is 100% effective and none of the vaccines claimed to be. The rate of vaccination matters.
Vermont is the most fully vaccinated state at 67.92%. In contrast, Alabama is at 34.84%.
All current vaccines were developed, trialed and approved before the delta variant emerged. The vaccines are effective at substantially reducing complications, hospitalizations and fatalities.
The vast majority of Covid- related hospitalizations and deaths are among the unvaccinated.
Did they at one time say you can’t get Covid if you are vaccinated?
I never heard that claim. The earliest I heard was that it would most likely keep you out of the hospital and keep you from getting seriously ill. You would have the virus and would be able to pass it on. It simply made it illness less serious.
Months before the vaccines were available I heard a epidemiologist, who was himself recovering from COVID, say that possibly what we should hope for is a vaccine that, if universally administered, would make the virus seem like a bad cold. You could get it but it would not be too bad and you could give it to someone else but they would also just experience mild cold-like symptoms. The universally administered part is the problem, as we have seen. He seemed to be hoping for a vaccine that would somehow change the genetic structure of the virus and convert it into a common cold coronavirus. Vaccinated humans would be the mechanism for defanging the COVID virus and it would eventually be rendered nearly harmless. We certainly are not there yet.
“ if universally administered” is key.
Vermont has the highest fully vaccinated rate of adults at 67.92%. In contrast, Alabama is at 34.84%.
Florida continues to have a disproportionate share of Covid. What happens in Florida, does not stay in Florida, or anywhere.
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