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Old 08-09-2021, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:52 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It appears they are experimenting with and attempting to modify virulent organisms. However, I would assume that the Wuhan leak was accidental. Had they been using this as a bio-weapon test run, they would have released it elsewhere.
It's not just "they". The US partnered with them on GOF experiments right here in the US in the CDC NC lab.
Then we stopped GOF and they moved it to China and we continued funding via a third party.

How much of an enemy is China when we're partnering up with them to create franken viruses ?
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:15 AM
 
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We won't hit 90% in the US even if we did not have all the political resistance. Maybe 80% is attainable with widespread mandates and that would be enough to limit all the social and economic disruption of rounds of infection. But then there is still the problem of the billions of people in the rest of the world ginning up new variants.
The thousands coming across the southern border of the US aren't helping either.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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What does "heard immunity" mean when the vaccinated can spread the disease?
This is obsolete in light of the latest CDC guidance.

Yes you can still have it and spread it. Bragging about you have been vaccinated, but are a walking virus spreader. So much guessing here.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:32 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What does "heard immunity" mean when the vaccinated can spread the disease?

This is obsolete in light of the latest CDC guidance.
It means there is no herd immunity with covid.
That was speculated last year when they found the first variants.
But of course that didn't fit the agenda so it got dismissed.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:36 AM
 
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Continually moving goal posts?


Anyone really surprised?
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:45 AM
 
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A year ago, the goal was 70 percent vaccination and we have herd immunity. Then they started pushing for 80 percent vaccination rates required.

An increasing number of articles and TV sources now suggest a 90 percent target.

The excuses likely implicate "Delta".

So once Gamma is here in full force, will they push for 100 percent vaccination rates or a no-go?
Why don't we just vaccinate and let the herd immunity take care of itself?
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:50 AM
 
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Vaccinations slowed to a crawl because those who wanted the vaccine, and wanted it badly, were standing in line, waiting on an appointment for their age group. Basically, everybody who really wanted it have now gotten it. It's basically the same as a learning curve. A few more will get it after long and hard thought. Some will never get it unless they absolutely have to.

I was one of those who applied for an appointment the moment my age group/risk group was allowed to. I still had to wait several week for my appointments.
520,000 Americans had their first shot yesterday. Common sense is breaking out.

What was it Churchill said about Americans? Something about doing the right thing once they've exhausted every alternative.
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:52 AM
 
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520,000 Americans had their first shot yesterday. Common sense is breaking out.

What was it Churchill said about Americans? Something about doing the right thing once they've exhausted every alternative.
There is no such thing as "common sense" but there is a real phenomena called herd mentality
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:52 AM
 
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It means the mass-vaccinated are a breeding ground for vaccine-resistant mutations.
The people whose immune systems have been prepped to reject the virus faster? Not sure the logic is sound.
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