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Old 08-11-2021, 03:45 AM
 
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Those words were never spoken by any climate scientist...I have only heard them from folks that deny that there is a problem, and a fixable one at that. If the world continues to ignore that problem the ice will continue to melt and the seas will continue to rise.

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/ipcc-ar6-s...rojection-tool
Come now, who do you think you are kidding. The people uttering the catastrophe scenarios are those that devoutly believe there is a problem - people such as Al Gore and AOC. But the problem is their absurd pronouncements drive people away from what is an important issue.

 
Old 08-11-2021, 03:48 AM
 
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this problem has to be dealt with by the entire planet.
So true. And China will join in just as soon as they are no longer a "developing country".

The "developing country" with an orbiting Space Station....
 
Old 08-11-2021, 03:57 AM
 
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The way oceans interact is complicated, right now most of the CO2 and also the temperature increase is in the oceans. The interaction of the atmosphere and oceans is complicated, far from a controlled experiment with many variables. At some point the oceans will be saturated and we could have runaway warming, right now the temperature increases in oceans are impacting many fisheries through out the world. Predictions are that CO2 lasts anywhere from 20 - 100 years, so I don't see how you get around the fact that man made increases to this level do anything but increase temperatures.

We know that there was sea level rise due to the melting of Antarctica and Greenland in our past and the level of CO2 is now the highest in 80,000 years, that should be worrisome.

Still the most important point is that there is no reasonable alternative theory. The earth doesn't just suddenly heat by 1 deg C in a hundred years, what forced that change.

But if your not worried now think about this, 120,000 years ago it was only 1 deg C warmer and sea levels were 20 - 30 feet higher, most of Miami was a reef and South Florida was under water. That is not a climate prediction, that is a geological fact.
Um, no.....


A new study provides surprising details on changes in Earth’s climate during the last warm period (120,000-128,000 years ago). Even though temperatures in Northern Greenland were 5-8 degrees Celsius higher than today, the thickness of the ice sheet was only a few hundred meters lower. And this despite the fact that sea level was 4-8 metres higher than today.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0123133428.htm
 
Old 08-11-2021, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Plague Island
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Now that is strange. I saw nobody blaming the US for climate change in this thread, although the US ranks as number one for emissions per capita, and number two for emissions by country, but this problem has to be dealt with by the entire planet.

1 China 10.06GT Total emissions

2 United States 5.41GT Total emissions

3 India 2.65GT Total emissions

1 United States 15.52 tons per capita.

2 China 7.38 tons per capita.

3 India 1.91 tons per capita
Plus the US has been polluting for far longer than China and India, who very recently were and actually still are agrarian societies, China less so at the moment.
 
Old 08-11-2021, 05:08 AM
 
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We don't have many year left before all life dies on the planet. Outside of 70 years out things sill start to fog up fast as sea temps runaway and all sea life dies. Once we get to that point it is all over within 140 years. The fires you see now are just the start to whats to come as the planet burns away jay.
 
Old 08-11-2021, 05:51 AM
 
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Great. Blame it on the US. Why not? Biggest checkbook in the world.

How easy to ignore the true offenders. China and India. About 12 months ago the air was more clear than it was for many years.

But wait. We can’t turn them off because they provide the cheapest labor in the world.
Exactly.
 
Old 08-11-2021, 06:04 AM
 
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I trust climate scientists more than end times preachers and talk show hosts bought by the fossil fuel industry.
What's the difference?
 
Old 08-11-2021, 06:07 AM
 
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We don't have many year left before all life dies on the planet. Outside of 70 years out things sill start to fog up fast as sea temps runaway and all sea life dies. Once we get to that point it is all over within 140 years. The fires you see now are just the start to whats to come as the planet burns away jay.
You actually believe that? We are in a 50 year cooling cycle from a solar minimum.

It must be terrible to live in fear and be such a pessimist. When you are negative, the whole world appears to be a horrible place.
 
Old 08-11-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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We are at 1.1 Deg C (2 Deg F) and going to 1.5 degrees even with radical sudden changes in consumption but we really need to change our habits rapidly.



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/c...t-ipcc-un.html
The nytimes! really?

Mad magazine has MORE credibility!
 
Old 08-11-2021, 06:13 AM
 
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None in FL for years. Since 2011 it's been the warmest winters ever.
https://weatherworksinc.com/news/great-lakes-ice
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