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Old 08-14-2021, 07:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Yes of course it was fraudulent and you know it because Mike Lindell and Trump told you so, this is August and you have nothing but keep on believing because "belief is all you have.
Election night most networks called Trump winner. Then went to bed at 2 AM, MST.

Woke up 4 hours later, Trump lost.

Been watching election for over 50 years, never seen such a strange thing. We can see crime, without Trump telling us.

We are not a bunch of deplorable dumb people.

 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:03 PM
 
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Election night most networks called Trump winner. Then went to bed at 2 AM, MST.
Not even close to true.

Based on polling, it was expected that the mail in ballots would skew in favor of Biden. After all, Trump had spent months telling his supporters not to vote by mail. As most states starting reporting in person votes first, it was expected that they would skew in favor of Trump, with mail in ballots in favor of Biden.

The networks withheld their calls for several days, until they had a good sense of where things were going based on both groups of ballots.

Yes, the momentum shifted, but the networks started calling states only after it shifted.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:12 PM
 
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Not even close to true.

Based on polling, it was expected that the mail in ballots would skew in favor of Biden. After all, Trump had spent months telling his supporters not to vote by mail. As most states starting reporting in person votes first, it was expected that they would skew in favor of Trump, with mail in ballots in favor of Biden.

The networks withheld their calls for several days, until they had a good sense of where things were going based on both groups of ballots.

Yes, the momentum shifted, but the networks started calling states only after it shifted.
Why not calculate mail-ins at the same time along with in person votes And shut it all down promptly, like all the rest of elections were done.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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He believed strongly in something and pursued it. That's more than can be said about most republican politicians sadly. As Alexander Hamilton said, if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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Why not calculate mail-ins at the same time along with in person votes And shut it all down promptly, like all the rest of elections were done.
That would be a state by state decision. I know that several states passed a statute that in person would be counted first, mail later.

Additionally, in most states your ballot counted as long as it was postmarked before the polls closed on election day. The USPS took another day or two getting the ballots to the polling stations for counting.

I think it also takes longer to count mail in ballots, as envelopes have to be opened, signatures matched, etc. As much as Trumpers dislike the delay and don't believe the reasons, it is actually done in order to protect election security.

Whatever the reason, that is the way it was done, and most of the news organizations were predicting a delay of a few days before calling the election for this very reason.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:34 PM
 
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He believed strongly in something and pursued it. That's more than can be said about most republican politicians sadly. As Alexander Hamilton said, if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
But what was he pursuing? He had no evidence, except what his own people called “a turd”. He hyped this big meeting and made these promises, and when the time came he had nothing.

That’s why I question if he really “believed strongly in something”. If he really believed he would have at least tried to come up with something, no? I suspect this was some sort of con job, but I can’t figure out his angle.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:42 PM
 
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But what was he pursuing? He had no evidence, except what his own people called “a turd”. He hyped this big meeting and made these promises, and when the time came he had nothing.

That’s why I question if he really “believed strongly in something”. If he really believed he would have at least tried to come up with something, no? I suspect this was some sort of con job, but I can’t figure out his angle.
This is what I wonder too. I talk to a lot of power hungry execs at work, and I can usually pick out the con in things like this. I really don't see what he had to gain through this.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 08:58 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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As Alexander Hamilton said, if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything.
Ooh, I like that one. I hadn't heard it. Very true. Even though Hamilton is not at the top of my list of founding fathers, I'll have to remember it.

As for the OP, he was DOA from the very beginning. Of course, if he had nothing... obviously DOA. But my feeling is that if he really did have something, there's no way he'd still be alive. He'd have died in a crash on the freeway or whatever. Or if not, someone would have called him at three in the morning and made the comment, "You have such a nice family... sure would be a shame if they disappeared one day... it's a dangerous world out there." Then again, maybe that is the explanation. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
 
Old 08-14-2021, 09:02 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What makes anyone think that he was thinking?
 
Old 08-14-2021, 09:11 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Ya, Lindell is the perfect example of falling for anything…
Are you trying to say he's a democrat?
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