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Imagine being a conservative and truly believing you're on the right side of two major issues.
Climate change is real. The earth is warming, that cannot be argued because it's a fact. Whether it's a natural warming cycle the planet is going through, or if mankind is speeding up the warming, or both....why not try to do what we can to slow down the warming it we can? How the hell do conservatives even argue against this?
Covid-19 is real. It's killed over 612,000 Americans, democrats and republicans. Covid shouldn't be a political issue. There is a highly contagious airborne virus being spread all over the country.
Imagine saying that being made to wear a mask in public, DURING THE DEADLIEST PANDEMIC IN OVER A CENTURY, was "tyranny."
Why are conservatives ALWAYS on the wrong side of every major issue these days?!
Imagine being a conservative and truly believing you're on the right side of two major issues.
Climate change is real. The earth is warming, that cannot be argued because it's a fact. Whether it's a natural warming cycle the planet is going through, or if mankind is speeding up the warming, or both....why not try to do what we can to slow down the warming it we can? How the hell do conservatives even argue against this?
Covid-19 is real. It's killed over 612,000 Americans, democrats and republicans. Covid shouldn't be a political issue. There is a highly contagious airborne virus being spread all over the country.
Imagine saying that being made to wear a mask in public, DURING THE DEADLIEST PANDEMIC IN OVER A CENTURY, was "tyranny."
Why are conservatives ALWAYS on the wrong side of every major issue these days?!
Natural climate change is real and has been happening non-stop for an estimated 4.5 Billion years - without humans even being here for nearly all of that time. Natural climate change continues to this day and is far and away the primary cause of climate change - just like always.
Natural immunity to covid 19 is real and our individual immunity systems are still almost the exclusive source of sustainable immunity that we have to this virus or any other. Even when there is a vaccine that effectively stimulates a proper immunity response, without having to actually get the virus, it is only stimulating our individual immunity systems to generate and provide that immunity. Sadly, none of the existing inoculations do that.
Why are leftists ALWAYS on the wrong side of every major issue these days?!
Another comparison is being demonstrated in the UK later this year, as the UN globalists arrive from around the world on their private jets, which are enormous producers of greenhouse gasses. Also, these globalist elites will be exempted from the covid related restrictions imposed on the British people.
Around 25,000 government figures, media, and environmental campaigners, most of whom will arrive on CO2-belching flights before lecturing us on our energy use, have been given special dispensation by the government. That means they won’t need to be vaccinated to enter the country if they are arriving from green or amber list countries.
“There will be no requirement for self-isolation on arrival to the UK for those coming from amber or green list countries whether vaccinated or not,†the UK government confirmed.
In addition, those arriving from ‘deadly’ red list countries that Brits have been told to avoid like the plague will only have to endure a quarantine period of 5 days, and presumably it will take place in a much nicer setting than Brits are having to endure.
The government justified the double standard by basically arguing that climate change is an important issue, just as Black Lives Matter protesters were allowed to gather in their thousands at the height of the pandemic, presumably because “systemic racism†was more of a threat than COVID-19.
They do not respect the rules that they insist are vital for everyone else with regards to global warming or for covid restrictions. How and why should anyone take these people seriously, if they do not take these matters seriously themselves?
Both climate change and covid alarmism, propagate irrational fear. This irrational fear, sheds light onto some of the worst sociopathic control freaks in our society.
OK, I will play. Show us the math on this: What portion of CO2 emissions come from natural sources and what portion is produced by humans?
At the risk of being obtuse...
About five years ago, I participated in a now locked thread concerning AGW. The discussion concerned the amount of additional carbon dioxide emissions from volcanoes versus the amount of additional carbon dioxide emissions from human activity. For discussion purposes, it was agreed that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere where in fact increasing and that the carbon dioxide levels from animals were roughly static. The poster that I was replying to had put forth the hypothesis that the increase in carbon dioxide emissions was almost all from undetected underwater volcanoes.
The following is some of the data that I posted to that thread. I've bolded the pertinent numbers.
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I found a web page from the U.S. Geological Survey department that quantifies carbon dioxide emissions by source. According to the web page, roughly 32 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide is produced annually from fuel combustion and another 5 billion metric tons is produced by world-wide road transportation, a total of about 37 billion metric tons. I've checked other sources, and these numbers are roughly approximated - somewhere roughly around 35 billion metric tons from human activity.
According to [the poster in the original thread's] hypothesis, this roughly 35 billion metric tons should be insignificant to the amount of carbon dioxide produced by ocean vents. However, the total carbon dioxide output for all volcanos, both above and below the ocean, is estimated by the USGS to be 200 million metric tons. That's less than 0.5% of the anthropocentric generated carbon dioxide.
About five years ago, I participated in a now locked thread concerning AGW. The discussion concerned the amount of additional carbon dioxide emissions from volcanoes versus the amount of additional carbon dioxide emissions from human activity. For discussion purposes, it was agreed that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere where in fact increasing and that the carbon dioxide levels from animals were roughly static. The poster that I was replying to had put forth the hypothesis that the increase in carbon dioxide emissions was almost all from undetected underwater volcanoes.
The following is some of the data that I posted to that thread. I've bolded the pertinent numbers.
First of all, not conceding that increasing CO2 is a leading cause of climatic change on the Earth - what is the total amount of CO2 emissions on Earth, split into the categories of human caused and everything else? Just a quick little summation and a link to where those numbers come from. Volcanoes are cool and all, but they are not anywhere close to being the sole source of natural CO2 emissions on this planet.
First of all, not conceding that increasing CO2 is a leading cause of climatic change on the Earth
OK, let's put a pin in that topic for now.
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what is the total amount of CO2 emissions on Earth, split into the categories of human caused and everything else? Just a quick little summation and a link to where those numbers come from. Volcanoes are cool and all, but they are not anywhere close to being the sole source of natural CO2 emissions on this planet.
The link that I provided gives emissions for humans and emissions for volcanoes. The only other place carbon dioxide comes from (that I know of) is fauna - land animals and sea creatures. Except for humans, I see no evidence that there's been explosion of other fauna for the past century or even for the past millennium. In fact, fish stocks have been crashing in the oceans over the past century.
As for how much actual carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere - could you explain why that is pertinent to the increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide?
Also, please understand that not all carbon dioxide goes into the atmosphere. As discussed in the old and locked thread, carbon dioxide also gets absorbed into the world's oceans - a very great deal of it does and it's affecting coral reefs due to the increase in acidity of the oceans.
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