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Old 08-13-2021, 12:51 PM
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Yes you are.

Unvaccinated people are MUCH sicker when they get COVID, and they're hospitalized and intubated at a MUCH higher rate than Vaxxed people, and are taking up resources that children might need who aren't allowed to be vaccinated at this point.
Unvaccinated people aren't much sicker - we've already demonstrated this back in 2020 - some weren't aware they had Covid, some had what they thought was a cold, others had trouble breathing for a few weeks and others ended up in the hospital.

As far as people taking up resources that children could use. 99.9% of children are being treated at a Children's Hospital or being transferred to one because they are the best at assessing and dealing eith children. They have their own resources and evem the chiefs of the hospitals in hard hit areas said they do not lack for PPE or ventilators.

I'm just trying to clarify the misinformation people are reading or being led to believe in the liberal .
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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I’m a pretty hardcore supporter for vaccine and mask mandates, and for taking other necessary actions (e.g. limiting the size if indoor gatherings) to slow/stop the pandemic. I don’t have much regard for anybody who takes contrary views. However, I have even less regard for those who preach about vaccines, wearing masks, socially distancing, and then go out and do the contrary. Obama is a public figure and his behaviors influence the public….in both a good/bad way. He can use his position to encourage vaccinations, mask wearing, etc. and he can harden people’s behavior against all those things when he goes out and does something that is or appears to be inconsistent with his pro-mask/vaccination talking points. I am dumbfounded that a guy who is as politically savvy as Obama would have an in-person extravaganza right now. It definitely comes across as do as I say, not as I do. I think the anti-vaxers/maskers types have a legitimate point. Bonehead move by the ex-Pres.
I’m dumbfounded that you haven’t figured out that the only thing politically savvy about Obama is the fact that the news media completely covers for anything he does. It has always been thus. I thought Obama would have been a much better president if he was actually ever held accountable for anything by the press.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Unvaccinated people aren't much sicker - we've already demonstrated this back in 2020 - some weren't aware they had Covid, some had what they thought was a cold, others had trouble breathing for a few weeks and others ended up in the hospital.

As far as people taking up resources that children could use. 99.9% of children are being treated at a Children's Hospital or being transferred to one because they are the best at assessing and dealing eith children. They have their own resources and evem the chiefs of the hospitals in hard hit areas said they do not lack for PPE or ventilators.

I'm just trying to clarify the misinformation people are reading or being led to believe in the liberal .

Unvaccinated people are more likely to be hospitalized or die. That doesn't mean that many won't be asymptomatic or have mild illness, but if you take 100 people who get sick but are unvaccinated and compare them to 100 vaccinated people with breakthrough infection, many more unvaccinated people will get very sick and more will die.



You are not clarifying misinformation, you are adding another layer to it.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:04 PM
 
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How funny is it that the same conservatives who think masks don't work and are anti-vax are taking issue with a private citizen having a party where vaccinations were required AND a negative covid test within the last 48 hours was required.

Oh, conservatives. The hypocrisy.
I have no problem with the party. Rock on I say. It’s the double standard that is the problem and you know it.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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https://freebeacon.com/politics/obama-super-spreader/


So some questions for the Left:


1) Does Obama want people to DIE?


2) Should he be held to the same standard as the rest of us plebes?


If you answered no to question one, but yes to question two - you're not completely insane and get a bonus question:


*drumroll*


Does this change your perspective at all on the whole lock down social distancing stuff?


Because the guy who preaches this, sure doesn't practice it. Nor do most of his fellow elites on the Left.


Kinda makes it suspect, don't it?


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That's a slanted article, nasty nicknames and all.
Yeah-kind of like those articles that called the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally a "superspreader" event last year. Correlation does not equal causation.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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That's a slanted article, nasty nicknames and all.
There are 17,332 people in Dukes County, Mass.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...etts/PST045219

Here's a so called 'unbias' source.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

AUG. 12

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Cases have increased recently and are very high. The number of hospitalized Covid patients has also risen in the Dukes County area. Deaths have remained at about the same level. The test positivity rate in Dukes County is relatively low, suggesting that testing capacity is adequate for evaluating Covid-19 spread in the area.

...The trend in deaths tends to lag weeks behind the trend in reported cases: Cases have recently increased in Dukes, which could mean a rise in deaths will follow...
Obviously, because it was Barack, no one from the left will consider this possibility, despite them insinuating that bikers who gathered would kill many.

One should wonder what happened right before April and August.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Wasn't the party just a few days ago? If anyone caught Covid from the party, they'd just be finding out about it today.

How disingenuous of you, OP. But not surprising that you'd post misleading articles.

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The incubation period of the Delta variant is 4 days.
Which means if anyone was infected, they'd start showing symptoms on the 12th - the very date of the OP's link. Curious, isn't it?

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Why would you assume the attendees were mostly vaccinated?
It was a requirement for attendance.

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So you are saying that the NY Times posts accurate data?

Turn in your MAGA card now, mister.
*snort*

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Old 08-13-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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They predicted the same thing last year and it did not happen.

How about the 210,000+ unvaccinated Migrants who crossed the border in July and were spread all across the US? 40% of them bussed into Laredo were shown to have covid. No telling how many they did not catch.

Yep, and Senate Democrats just voted against testing illegal immigrants for COVID.


Sheer lunacy and hyopcrisy - thy name is Democrat.
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Old 08-13-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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There are 17,332 people in Dukes County, Mass.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...etts/PST045219

Here's a so called 'unbias' source.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html

AUG. 12



Obviously, because it was Barack, no one from the left will consider this possibility, despite them insinuating that bikers who gathered would kill many.

One should wonder what happened right before April and August.

Their brains no longer function properly.


I honestly believe Donald Trump broke them. They have no critical thought or nuance left.


All they do now is bleat the Party line.
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Old 08-13-2021, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Obviously, because it was Barack, no one from the left will consider this possibility, despite them insinuating that bikers who gathered would kill many.
And no one on the right can read a calendar.
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