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Old 08-13-2021, 10:41 AM
 
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A super virus is inevitable because technology and understanding of viruses is increasing. A well resourced and skilled individual/terrorist group/State with a grudge against the world, will at some point be able to design a virus that has a long incubation, and an extremely high mortality rate- it's just a simple consequence of advances in this particular area of science.

Virology is only a great thing for humanity, until it ain't.
This 1000%. If Covid isn’t the end then it will be another man-made virus that cough cough “accidentally” gets released.
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Old 08-13-2021, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Why don’t we seriously address overpopulation on this planet?

China had to use draconian methods for their one-child policy for over a decade.
Instead of that, couldn’t we use a carrot and stick type policy — reward one child or no child families economically, and punish families economically who have more than one child? Or some other birth control incentives....

Of course It would be super controversial and divisive, but if we don’t address world population no Green Policies or Paris Accords will ever make a real dent in saving our resources or CO2 output.
Because confronting the problems of too many poor people having too many babies, combined with the fact that so many people say that we must keep 90-year-old Alzheimer victims alive at whatever cost (even if there is no or virtually no quality of life for them), combined with the rich "needing" to have large homes and green lawns even in low-rainfall areas -- well, these ALL clash with people saying that everyone has the right to live however they want and whatever the cost.

IMO, the great majority of people in the U.S. and similar countries are simply not willing to sacrifice ANYTHING.
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Old 08-13-2021, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Denver
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...yes or no, do you think mass death is coming? And if you do, do you think it’s planned or just a natural event the world has seen many times before? You do realize this is nothing new, correct?
To the first question, absolutely, and within my lifetime too.

To the second question, it's premeditated in the same sense that negligence is. We're on the exact carbon emissions and global temperature rise models as predicted by Exxon in the late 70s/early 80s. Voters throughout the 80s, 90s, and 00s chose cheap plastic **** made in Asia over investing in the advancement of technology. And now, most of those same voters choose growth of their retirement funds and blaming any sort of "other" they can find over acknowledging their grave mistake. This forum is full of them, and they'll him and haw and harumph and screech about grand conspiracies, but assuming there's a written history that survives, it will absolutely look back at Anglosphere during this time and lay much of the blame on them.

To the third question, no, this is indeed new within the context of human timelines. Knowing thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, I know that putting the gases that we have into the atmosphere at the rate that we have is on the same scale as the cataclysms that caused mass extinctions.
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Old 08-13-2021, 10:54 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Why don’t we seriously address overpopulation on this planet?............ if we don’t address world population no Green Policies or Paris Accords will ever make a real dent in saving our resources or CO2 output.
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Because confronting the problems of too many poor people having too many babies................
The cavalry is on the way!


Population decline is imminent. As women all over the world become emancipated in various ways and as families move to more urban settings they stop having children - not completely, you understand, but it drops right off the table.
There are still some countries above the population replacement level of 2.1 children per woman, but those countries are becoming fewer and fewer.
The world population will begin to shrink very quickly and the shrinkage will accelerate as time goes by. The UN forecast of 11B people at some point is unsupported by mathematics.


You will not like every facet of population decline. Some goods will be hard to get and some things will simply disappear. The aging population creates its own problems.
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Old 08-13-2021, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Why don’t we seriously address overpopulation on this planet?

China had to use draconian methods for their one-child policy for over a decade.
Instead of that, couldn’t we use a carrot and stick type policy — reward one child or no child families economically, and punish families economically who have more than one child? Or some other birth control incentives....

Of course It would be super controversial and divisive, but if we don’t address world population no Green Policies or Paris Accords will ever make a real dent in saving our resources or CO2 output.
We'd also have to address the Central Banking economic paradigm, which requires an increasing number of people/workers to prop up the system. Otherwise the entire economic system would collapse due to the overwhelming debt loads.
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Old 08-13-2021, 06:39 PM
 
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That's all true unless you factor in real world information.
Actual information indicates that world population is very close to peak and will begin to decline. It will decline for many generations.


There are several reasons for this decline, all of them having to do with human behavior as opposed to the expiration of earth resources. There are already several threads on this subject and many references. Natural catastrophes will, of course, accelerate the coming decline in population. This is one time when history does not predict the future.
Technology, once we have it, won't go away. We now have the tech to produce huge amounts of food and energy and living space, but also to impose political curbs on population growth. These are both new and untested factors. People are so easily manipulated, future mind controllers can do whatever suits their interests., with little or no resistance from logic or common sense. What we do know is that under present co conditions, the world can double in population in 50 years, and support that many.
The world now produces enough food fir 15 billion, but 45% goes uneaten.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:46 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Technology, once we have it, won't go away. We now have the tech to produce huge amounts of food and energy and living space, but also to impose political curbs on population growth. These are both new and untested factors. People are so easily manipulated, future mind controllers can do whatever suits their interests., with little or no resistance from logic or common sense. What we do know is that under present co conditions, the world can double in population in 50 years, and support that many.
The world now produces enough food fir 15 billion, but 45% goes uneaten.
Political curbs on population growth won't be necessary. Many countries are already declining; no country has successfully reversed population decline, although several have tried.

Major countries already in population decline include Japan, Greece, Italy and virtually all Eastern European countries. China and Russia are both expected to lose 50% of their population in 80 years.


Many people believe, as you do, that the world can double in population in 50 years. After all, that is what we have all been told for all these years. And it used to be true! But the fertility rate (number of children born to each woman) has been falling steadily for many, many years and now has reached 2.5. That's half of what it was just 50 years ago. At 2.1 population stops growing and starts shrinking.
My own feeling is that population will begin to shrink and then the decrease will accelerate.



FWIW: A population of 1,000,000 people decreasing at 1% per year will result in a final population of 447,523 people in 80 years. 50 years later that same population is down to 270,000 people.
Translated to world population of 7B, that means by 2100 we would be down to 3.15B, and by 2150 close to 1.9B.
I expect population to decrease much faster than that, though.


It's fascinating stuff. And it is not at all what we have been told for all of our history.
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Old 08-14-2021, 04:57 AM
 
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Closing-in on 8-billion, it would not hurt to have a "population reduction" event.

Is one coming, hard to say.

50 to 60 million a year croak, yet the world population still keeps rising.
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Old 08-14-2021, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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We have a global human population bubble. All bubbles must burst, that is a law as fundamental as gravity and thermodynamics.
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Old 08-14-2021, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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But we are creating that “slow burn” by not just returning to normal and playing yo-yo with our lives. Or as many of us feel, allowing our new appointed dictators to do this to us. Let’s be realistic. The virus has less than a 1% death rate and far less than that if you exclude pre-existing factors. Why are we shutting the planet down for that? There’s no reason for it. Hell, if you really get technical there’s not even a reason to create vaccines for a virus like that. And I have a question for anyone who doubts this scenario?

Where did the flu go? No, really ask yourselves that. Where did the flu go?

We are going to create the super virus if anything by playing with these so called vaccines that do not prevent infection.
The 'super virus' is called 'The Great Reset'. I linked to the World Economic Forum's page on that yesterday.

They aren't even denying that they are using 'Covid' as the catalyst.

Yes, it will indeed be very different in a decade. Mass deaths from a virus? Or mass deaths by people who don't want to live in the way that these elitist God wanna bes are planning?

Seriously, read it:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...a-great-reset/

Really let it sink in. Don't be taken in by the 'feel good' sentiment they're trying to push, really pay attention to what they are saying.
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