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Old 08-13-2021, 07:12 PM
 
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Nearly 10,000 Breakthrough COVID Cases Reported in Mass.; Over 100 Have Died

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Nearly 10,000 fully vaccinated Massachusetts residents have now tested positive for COVID-19 and just over 100 of them have died, according to state data on breakthrough cases published Tuesday.
"just" over 100? That is a mortality rate of more than 1%, much higher than the overall mortatlity rate of COVID.

It is pathetic that the article instead compares the death toll to the total number of people vaccinated. If you do that, then you should compare the COVID death to the the entire population, not just those who got COVID/
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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At this point the general public should admit the vaccine is failing. We need another strategy to combat covid-19, not forcing mandatory forced vaccinations that don't even prevent you from becoming infected and transmitting the virus.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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At this point the general public should admit the vaccine is failing. We need another strategy to combat covid-19, not forcing mandatory forced vaccinations that don't even prevent you from becoming infected and transmitting the virus.

Don't say that too loud... Democrats will have us locked in our homes, hiding under beds indefinitely. There were too many suicides, business closures, etc with the last round of lockdowns. The next round will push many more over the edge. Never before has the world responded to a disease like this, especially one with such a low mortality rate. Living in fear like the Karens is not the way people were meant to be living.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:34 PM
 
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At this point the general public should admit the vaccine is failing. We need another strategy to combat covid-19, not forcing mandatory forced vaccinations that don't even prevent you from becoming infected and transmitting the virus.
There may be some truth here that the vaccine is failing, but we also need to look at the health of the people that became infected after getting the vaccine. Were they morbidly obese? Did they have current health issues? Unhealthy lifestyles? Bad diets? Alcoholics? Are they susceptible to getting sick? The questions go on and on, and unfortunately, are relevant.

The vaccine is not completely unlike the flu vaccine. The flu vaccine is an annual failure, with an efficacy well under 60%. It's not like the flu vaccine will somehow make you immune to getting the flu, it just hopefully lessens the symptoms if you do get the flu.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nearly 10,000 Breakthrough COVID Cases Reported in Mass.; Over 100 Have Died

"just" over 100? That is a mortality rate of more than 1%, much higher than the overall mortatlity rate of COVID.

It is pathetic that the article instead compares the death toll to the total number of people vaccinated. If you do that, then you should compare the COVID death to the the entire population, not just those who got COVID/
Over 4,400,000 people in Massachusetts have been fully vaccinated. If 10,000 fully vaccinated people got covid, that is less than 0.3% of the total. If 100 died, that is less than 0.003%. I would say the vaccines are very effective.

If you think the vaccines don’t work, how do you explain that more than 95% of those hospitalized are unvaccinated, and more than 99% of deaths are from unvaccinated individuals? Since the country is about 50% fully vaccinated, all other things being equal, then those ratios should be about 50/50.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:45 PM
 
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What is a "case"?

some of the vaccinated patients reported as COVID hospitalizations and COVID deaths are actually due to other underlying issues, where COVID is identified on routine admission screening.

Since vaccination doesn't stop infection, and if you 'test' them, of course you will find fragments of the virus. It appears more testing is happening.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:50 PM
 
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Natural Herd immunity was the only way to be past this by now. The governments faucist tactics and gene therapy jabs are just causing it to mutate and be LESS deadly but more transmittable. Its time to have covid parties just like what they did for chicken pox.
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Old 08-13-2021, 07:56 PM
 
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but we also need to look at the health of the people that became infected after getting the vaccine. Were they morbidly obese? Did they have current health issues? Unhealthy lifestyles? Bad diets? Alcoholics? Are they susceptible to getting sick? The questions go on and on, and unfortunately, are relevant.
Do the same for COVID death, then.

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It's not like the flu vaccine will somehow make you immune to getting the flu, it just hopefully lessens the symptoms if you do get the flu.
Then why pushing others to get the "vaccine"? Whay are the vaccinated so scared of (only) the unvaccinated?
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