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We are in an unusual situation with the Pandemic. To think non-immune nurses should be working in close contact with patients is simply bad medicine. But as you say, if there are none available vaccinated, than we would have to move down a notch, and take more risks. Like we did in 2020.
Get the vaccine or get fired? In Shenandoah Valley, some nurses choose termination.
Good. Get those anti-vaxers out of the hospital staff entirely.
When you go to a hospital you expect the staff to take all precautions for your personal safety, not jeopardize your life and health just because you got a nurse who doesn't care if she/he spreads the worst disease to hit the USA in over 100 years.
I hope the only job they can find is stocking shelves at a Sam's Club. That's also considered critical, front line staffing and they need help. But they'll have to wear masks and get tested once a week if they expect to keep the job.
Of course if they just get vaccinated, they could go about their lives as normal. Just like the good ole days.
"Stupid is as stupid does"
You are acting like these nurses are doing their job in t-shirts and shorts coughing and sneezing in everyone's face. Are you really trying to say that you think that these nurses aren't are wearing any sort of PPE? These nurses are not only wearing medical-grade PPE, they know how to use it correctly.
Do you really think that they want to get COVID? Are you really trying to equate someone who doesn't want to get a vaccine that has been around for an extremely short time to someone that wouldn't want to get tested?
I would trust an unvaccinated nurse who got tested over a vaccinated nurse who didn't get tested because they think they are now somehow immune from COVID.
Interesting…….. I guess some people don’t want to drink the Cool Aid
Get the vaccine or get fired? In Shenandoah Valley, some nurses choose termination.
They were hard to miss on the corner of a busy four-way intersection at the entrance to Winchester Medical Center: a group of about 20 people - many of them nurses, some in scrubs - protesting the hospital's recent coronavirus vaccine mandate.
Well................... as a healthcare provider I think that is just being irresponsible.
Of any place, the hospital should be one in which all employees are vaccinated. Think about it- you are concentrating those who are sick in one small area. The implications are as follows:
1. patients in the hospital for reasons other than Covid are put at higher risk
2. If the staff become infected due to not being vaccinated, it creates a huge manpower crunch
3. people will avoid the hospital for fear of being infected
When you sign up for medicine, you have certain obligations to the public, despite your personal wishes. A pandemic is not the time to turn tail and run.
Well................... as a healthcare provider I think that is just being irresponsible.
Of any place, the hospital should be one in which all employees are vaccinated. Think about it- you are concentrating those who are sick in one small area. The implications are as follows:
1. patients in the hospital for reasons other than Covid are put at higher risk
2. If the staff become infected due to not being vaccinated, it creates a huge manpower crunch
3. people will avoid the hospital for fear of being infected
When you sign up for medicine, you have certain obligations to the public, despite your personal wishes. A pandemic is not the time to turn tail and run.
If it is, it is. Your or I may not think that it's exemplary behavior to turn tail and run, but if that's what an anti-vaxxer who works for a hospital chooses to do, that is their choice. They shouldn't be tied down in a chair and forced to have the vaccine. It's not a gulag camp and they can absolutely leave if they don't want to continue working at the hospital.
If it is, it is. Your or I may not think that it's exemplary behavior to turn tail and run, but if that's what an anti-vaxxer who works for a hospital chooses to do, that is their choice. They shouldn't be tied down in a chair and forced to have the vaccine. It's not a gulag camp and they can absolutely leave if they don't want to continue working at the hospital.
Yes. They do have that freedom of choice and those are the only options. As they should be.
Think about this folks. I get tested as soon as I get to the hospital for covid and test negative. I'm admitted for an aortic embolism. I'm scheduled to have surgery (sleeve) for it at 7AM the following day. Op is successful. I start showing symptoms of covid the 3rd day in CCU.
I sue the hospital for giving me covid 19 and it's a no brainer win for me. Hospital loses millions.
How many of these suits does anyone think the hospital will put up with in the name of personal freedom to infect anyone at random?
If it is, it is. Your or I may not think that it's exemplary behavior to turn tail and run, but if that's what an anti-vaxxer who works for a hospital chooses to do, that is their choice. They shouldn't be tied down in a chair and forced to have the vaccine. It's not a gulag camp and they can absolutely leave if they don't want to continue working at the hospital.
Yep. No gulag camps in America. But, as always, there are consequences for our choices - whether we like it or not.
I suppose "I'm standing up against the man" sounds better than "this is a great excuse to collect unemployment and look self-righteous in the process, hopefully someone will make a gofundme for my lazy butt"
If it is, it is. Your or I may not think that it's exemplary behavior to turn tail and run, but if that's what an anti-vaxxer who works for a hospital chooses to do, that is their choice. They shouldn't be tied down in a chair and forced to have the vaccine. It's not a gulag camp and they can absolutely leave if they don't want to continue working at the hospital.
Interesting way to spin it. I believe they were terminated. The hospital initiated the action. They chose to terminate them.
Interesting way to spin it. I believe they were terminated. The hospital initiated the action. They chose to terminate them.
Does it improve on the quality of patient care? Probably not.
Is it in the patients best interests? Probably yes.
Hospitals have to be proactive with infectious diseases, and can't go wrong if the two questions are answered in the affirmative. If there are competent and vaccinated nurse available, they are everyone's best option.
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