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Old 08-16-2021, 05:53 AM
 
Location: New York City
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You don't just withdraw without any planning or proper assessment of the situation, and Biden's withdrawal strategy went again military advisers and did not take the views of allies in to account.
The criminal part of this is that Biden rushed the withdrawal for a photo op.

Biden wanted the final pull out on 9/11 to score political points
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:54 AM
 
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If we can just manage to stave off the HR1 vote fixing bill in congress and get to 2022 their plan is all going to fall apart because the Democrats have now lost all support among independents. They would even vote for Trump at this point
Why are you pretending to care about people in afghanistan all of a sudden? All we've heard from right wingers for 19.9 years has been "BRING OUR BOYS HOME" (which I agree with) - suddenly you're upset? Man up and stand up for what you folks have been saying for more than a decade.
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:54 AM
 
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Agreed.

If you want to blame someone for tiliban control of our weapons and vehicles, you better start looking at the generals and commanders of the US military. They are the ones who had control over that.
Democrat Generals were too busy investigating "white rage" and reading the Communist Manifesto
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:55 AM
 
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Why are all you folks coming out of the woodwork now? A few months ago wasn't it "Biden failed to follow through with trumps withdraw" - now that he did it your mad? Seriously?
no. it wasn't that.

i don't recall a single soul saying that a few months ago
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:55 AM
 
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The criminal part of this is that Biden rushed the withdrawal for a photo op.

Biden wanted the final pull out on 9/11 to score political points
How did he rush something that was supposed to be done in May according to Trumps plan??
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:56 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Why are you pretending to care about people in afghanistan all of a sudden? All we've heard from right wingers for 19.9 years has been "BRING OUR BOYS HOME" (which I agree with) - suddenly you're upset? Man up and stand up for what you folks have been saying for more than a decade.
You clearly don't get it, crystal clear

Everyone wanted us to pull out, but nobody wanted it botched like this. We lost so much equipment and we broke so many promises. The Taliban took less than ONE WEEK to go rough shot over the entire county. What an embarrassment, what a complete lack of leadership and command
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:57 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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How did he rush something that was supposed to be done in May according to Trumps plan??
It's all going so well.

Rift with US grows as UK minister voices fears over Afghanistan exit - The Guardian
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:57 AM
 
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You clearly don't get it, crystal clear

Everyone wanted us to pull out, but nobody wanted it botched like this. We lost so much equipment and we broke so many promises. The Taliban took less than ONE WEEK to go rough shot over the entire county. What an embarrassment, what a complete lack of leadership and command
So everyone here believes Biden was the one who sat down at his desk and made the plans? Does the CEO of a company draw up plans when a new server room is needed?
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Old 08-16-2021, 06:00 AM
 
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In conclusion what has just happened is a great victory of Al Qaeda and a good recruitment tool, and Afghanistan can now act as a training base for potential Jihadist terrorists, so unlike Vietnam this might have future implications relating to American and Western lives.

In terms of Biden it's possible the worst policy decision a US President has made since the days of the Vietnam War, and even US allies are shacking their heads in disbelief.

As for NATO allies, they are now going to be even more reluctant to ever participate in such US led campaigns ever again, and Biden's decision has caused a lot of criticism from US allies.
They can train all they want.

Everyone trying to immigrate from that country will be heavily scrutinized and most likely not allowed to enter any key nations. So if they think this will help their cause by conspicuously building an entire nation of terrorists it's incredibly dumb and short sighted.

If any refugees are let in after this the FBI/NSA will monitor every move when they eat, poop and f***. Everything. As it is COVID has prevented free movement, so that increases the hurdle they'll have to establish and set up sleeper cells.

In terms of policy, the US can't bear the brunt of keeping Jihadis in check. It should be everyone's job, including China's.
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Old 08-16-2021, 06:06 AM
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They can train all they want.

Everyone trying to immigrate from that country will be heavily scrutinized and most likely not allowed to enter any key nations. So if they think this will help their cause by conspicuously building an entire nation of terrorists it's incredibly dumb and short sighted.

If any refugees are let in after this the FBI/NSA will monitor every move when they eat, poop and f***. Everything. As it is COVID has prevented free movement, so that increases the hurdle they'll have to establish and set up sleeper cells.

In terms of policy, the US can't bear the brunt of keeping Jihadis in check. It should be everyone's job, including China's.
Because the US Security Services have been so successful in the past.

As for US targets there are plenty outside of the US.
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