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Old 08-31-2021, 10:29 PM
 
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Ghani tells Biden the Taliban is ramping up with support from Pakistan and 10,000 - 15,000 international terrorists.

Biden is focused on perception.

Sad.

Excerpts of call between Joe Biden and Ashraf Ghani July 23

BIDEN: You know, I am a moment late. But I mean it sincerely. Hey look, I want to make it clear that I am not a military man any more than you are, but I have been meeting with our Pentagon folks, and our national security people, as you have with ours and yours, and as you know and I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things aren’t going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban.

And there’s a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.

...
GHANI: Mr. President, we are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists, predominantly Pakistanis thrown into this, so that dimension needs to be taken account of.

Second, what is crucial is, close air support, and if I could make a request, you have been very generous, if your assistance, particularly to our air force be front loaded, because what we need at this moment, there was a very heavily reliance on air power, and we have prioritized that if it could be at all front-loaded, we will greatly appreciate it.
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Old 08-31-2021, 10:31 PM
 
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Biden has f...ed up on so many levels with Afghanistan, it boggles the mind.
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Old 08-31-2021, 10:33 PM
 
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In addition, there was a follow up from the military leaders behind the large desks.

More from them on the war for perception, instead of the war for Afghanistan.

You have best military, but what’s the plan: Biden-Ghani phone call before Afghan collapse

In a follow-up call later that day that did not include the U.S. president, Biden’s National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan, General Mark Milley and U.S. Central Command commander General Frank McKenzie spoke to Ghani. Reuters also obtained a transcript of that call.

In this call, too, an area of focus was the global perception of events on the ground in Afghanistan. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Ghani “the perception in the United States, in Europe and the media sort of thing is a narrative of Taliban momentum, and a narrative of Taliban victory. And we need to collectively demonstrate and try to turn that perception, that narrative around.”


Simply clueless
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Old 08-31-2021, 10:42 PM
 
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So here's my question... who is leaking this information?

Someone is trying to make Biden look bad... I know he is doing fine on his own, but still - this is not normal behavior for the swamp to seemingly attack itself.

This report about the phone call comes out after Biden says he had no clue this was coming - yet Ghani spells it out pretty clearly.

What I have seen is a possible rift between Team Intelligence and State ... and Team Biden, Defense, and the NSC.

Something is amiss here...
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Old 08-31-2021, 11:05 PM
 
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You guys ever stop to think that this is the standard MO for the US? It’s just now out in the open?
The military industrial complex in action. It’s just being exposed now and biden happens to be the one in charge at the moment. He’s part of it too.

But look at the history of all the nations we toppled and puppet dictatorships we propped up.

This is no different when the US propped up Pinoche. A murderous dictator.

We just blamed the collapse on socialism. But it was really us.

This time the US is having a hard time keeping it under wraps…
That's not my issue. I understand who generally profits from all of the wartime activities.

I'm just wondering who waited for Biden to make the claim, and promptly leaked a call that makes Biden looks bad. This is not normal behavior to do this to a Democrat.
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:19 AM
 
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Ghani is a neoliberal just like Biden is. Ghani went to school at the most liberal colleges in the US, and some of his family worked on Mayor Pete’s presidential campaign.

So is it surprising that he scooped up tens of millions of dollars and fled the country at the first sign of trouble?

He is a coward just like Biden is. Not only a coward, but a despicable human being, stealing money from his own countrymen, who are struggling to survive.

I do find it ironic that when things get serious, liberals turn on one another.

Man, I hate the direction our country has turned.
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:29 AM
 
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Ghani tells Biden the Taliban is ramping up with support from Pakistan and 10,000 - 15,000 international terrorists.

Biden is focused on perception.

Sad.

Excerpts of call between Joe Biden and Ashraf Ghani July 23

BIDEN: You know, I am a moment late. But I mean it sincerely. Hey look, I want to make it clear that I am not a military man any more than you are, but I have been meeting with our Pentagon folks, and our national security people, as you have with ours and yours, and as you know and I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things aren’t going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban.

And there’s a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.

...
GHANI: Mr. President, we are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists, predominantly Pakistanis thrown into this, so that dimension needs to be taken account of.

Second, what is crucial is, close air support, and if I could make a request, you have been very generous, if your assistance, particularly to our air force be front loaded, because what we need at this moment, there was a very heavily reliance on air power, and we have prioritized that if it could be at all front-loaded, we will greatly appreciate it.
Wow. Unbelievable.
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:31 AM
 
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Ghani is a neoliberal just like Biden is. Ghani went to school at the most liberal colleges in the US, and some of his family worked on Mayor Pete’s presidential campaign.

So is it surprising that he scooped up tens of millions of dollars and fled the country at the first sign of trouble?

He is a coward just like Biden is. Not only a coward, but a despicable human being, stealing money from his own countrymen, who are struggling to survive.

I do find it ironic that when things get serious, liberals turn on one another.

Man, I hate the direction our country has turned.
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:22 AM
 
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Default Biden told Afghan president to lie about Taliban advances to cover crisis

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...wnplay-crisis/


Can it get any worse?

Biden was not "surprised" at all about the Taliban advances and was fully aware (as much as a demented man can be) of their impending capture of Kabul.

In a telephone transcript, it is shown that Biden KNEW ABOUT THE IMPENDING FALL OF KABUL AND TOLD THE AFGHAN PRESIDENT TO LIE ABOUT I!!!!!!!!!

This whole fake administration needs to go. The American people knew better than to place a demented crook in the White House, but were "over ruled" by the oligarchs and the DNC. Impeachment is not good enough, as then the same chorus of crooks are still there, with Obama still calling the shots from the sidelines.
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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That's not my issue. I understand who generally profits from all of the wartime activities.

I'm just wondering who waited for Biden to make the claim, and promptly leaked a call that makes Biden looks bad. This is not normal behavior to do this to a Democrat.
Maybe so they can 25th him perhaps?
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