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View Poll Results: Biden/Harris-Have they destroyed the USA as fast as you expected?
Faster-I thought they could only crush the economy year 1. 17 18.68%
Faster-I thought they could only crush our military power year 1. 1 1.10%
Faster-I thought they could only impose a Southern border invasion year 1. 13 14.29%
Right on time-I thought they would wreck economy, military power, and border invasion year 1. 60 65.93%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-20-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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Just as Slow-Joe got caught unawares on how fast Afghanistan would crumble, I am shocked at the precipitous crumbling of the US under his lack of leadership and caving to the woke left.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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These polls are great comedy.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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He was a train wreck, along with Harris, from Day-One, now THOUSANDS of Americans and Afghans that worked directly for the United States are in danger of being murdered.

Seriously, why is he still in office??? He needs to be removed before he screws something else up again or starts a real war.

The entire Biden/Harris Administration and all their Secretaries to every Department needs to be removed as well... Along with all the Generals and Admirals that were directly advising him. They failed to resign in protest when they knew they were right and Biden's poor decisions would lead to what we have today. Honestly, if these Generals and Admirals would have done this, it would have forced Biden to act in a more appropriate manner.

Plus, today, he threw them under the bus by saying "he doesn't recall" ever being advised of what can happen by not leaving American Combat Troops in Afghanistan AFTER August 31st.

I'm fully convinced that Biden is mentally incapable of being the president of the United States and is totally delusional in his actions since he really "thinks" that he has everything under control.

As proof of what our longtime allies think of us was best said in the British Parliament today. Basically, they need to stay away from depending on America, but now, focus more on building stronger relations with Japan, Germany, France, Australia and other Western countries.

Thanks Biden, you singlehandedly DESTROYED America's global creditability in less than one year.
Trump Admin negotiated with the Taliban to withdraw all troops and for 5000 Taliban fighters from Afghan prisons in 2000. The Trump Admin legitimized the Taliban.

Here is one of several agreement made with the Taliban :

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...n-02.29.20.pdf

Trump reduced troops from 14,000 to 2500 in 2000. Biden inherited a no win situation.

I have yet to come across anything factual about the Trump Admin’s plan to resettle Afghans that had helped the US at some point over the past 20 years. Did I miss something?

I am aware of 200 Afghan interpreters that landed in NJ a few weeks ago. Some right wing media went off on how Biden was resettling terrorists. Tucker claimed Biden was allowing the US to be invaded by millions of Afghans.

The fake outrage is political theatre.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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Thousands of Americans stuck in Afghanistan is ripping the bandaid off? 6,000 troops being told they can’t leave until they “think” everyone is rescued is ending a war?

Liberals really are clueless.
Trump Admin negotiated troop withdrawal directly with the Taliban. It also agreed to the release of 5000 Taliban fighters from Afghan prisons. Trump Admin legitimized the Taliban. This happened in February 2020.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...n-02.29.20.pdf

Trump reduced troops from 14,000 to 2500 in 2000.

Given all of the above was well known in 2000, why would there be US civilians in Afghanistan? Who are these people? What was their purpose in Afghanistan? Military contractors? Tourists? Media looking for sob stories?

How did the Trump Admin expect to get these people out with 2500 troops?
Did the Trump Admin have a plan to resettle Afghans who were helpful to the US at points over the past 20 years?

As an aside, any Afghans that chose to pose for a photo op while clinging to an aircraft don’t appear to be the brightest bulb.

Obviously US people forget or were unaware of the chaos then ensued when the US withdrew from Vietnam. The diff is that the then POTUS had not reduced troops to 2500.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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While they have started to destroy the nation the real enemy walks among us. The idiots who can’t drive a car. The people who run certain HOAs and demand kids don’t use chalk on sidewalks. The insecure emotionally fragile ones that get offended easily. The ones who think only one “life” matters. Social media censoring and having a their way is the right way attitude. The ones who complained about a “Starbucks Christmas cup”. The ones who run local cities into the ground by ridiculous rules. The ones who move near an airport and complain about noise and lead poisoning wanting to shut it down. The ones whose own self greed (typically those in government positions) use their position to get what they want. The businesses that don’t have the balls to be themselves and independent to bow down and surrender themselves on current affairs (Subway, Aunt Jemima, United airlines etc) I can go on. These idiots out there are the REAL problem and the ones who will destroy this nation.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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Hold your horses. They’ll get out.
How? Biden said our military couldn’t go in and get them, even though Britain is doing just that, getting their citizens out.
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Old 08-20-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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Beyond that 65,000 Afghan citizens who helped us left to be executed. Just wait until the next time US troops are attacked, to see how quickly witnesses call for their aid, or assist in caring for their wounds.

We BETRAYED our allies in Afghanistan. By Biden's order to simply run like cowards.
Trump campaigned on a full withdrawal in 2016. 2020 was an election year and Trump wanted to deliver on that promise.

Trump reduced troops from 14,000 to 2500 in 2000. Where was the Trump Admin Plan to resettle those who had been helpful to the US at points over the past 20 years. And how did they expect to achieve this with 2500 troops?

There is no way to pull off a 20 year old bandaid without chaos.

200 Afghans were temporarily resettled in NJ a few weeks ago. Right wing media claimed Biden was importing terrorists. Tucker claimed Biden was importing millions of Afghans.

Media reports that those resettled are worried about their extended families and want them to be evacuated, too.

Media reporting about the lack of civil rights for women and gay people in Afghanistan. The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is the country’s full name and its interpretation of Sharia Law has been the law of the land.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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Trump campaigned on a full withdrawal in 2016. 2020 was an election year and Trump wanted to deliver on that promise.

Trump reduced troops from 14,000 to 2500 in 2000. Where was the Trump Admin Plan to resettle those who had been helpful to the US at points over the past 20 years. And how did they expect to achieve this with 2500 troops?

There is no way to pull off a 20 year old bandaid without chaos.

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A campaign promise is not an action. Biden's actions are leading to a giant humanitarian crisis with an immense amount of executions either done, or going to occur.

This is not chaos. It is an unmitigated disaster. We are a laughingstock even amongst our allies today.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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He ended the war in Afghanistan? You are a comedian, aren’t you?

-Still have thousands of US troops in Astan. More are probably on their way
-Thousand of American citizen/civilian lives are at imminent danger
-People falling off military airplanes
-Our adversaries think we are weak and our allies think we are a fool
Again, Trump reduced troops to 2500 in 2000. Where is the Trump Admin Plan to resettle those Afghans who had been helpful over the years and how exactly would that have been achieved with just 2500 troops.

Who are these American civilians that chose to remain in Afghanistan despite the massive drawdown in 2000? What was their purpose in Afghanistan? Tourism? Media?

Who clings to a moving aircraft? What a fine photo op.

Tell us how the Trump Admin expected to avoid chaos with only 2509 troops in country?

Hell has frozen over and there is consensus between Trump and Biden that we must end this war.
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Old 08-20-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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Who clings to a moving aircraft? What a fine photo op.

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Desperate people. It seems to be more favorable than facing beheading.
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