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Old 08-24-2021, 07:19 AM
 
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No, there is... It just isn't enough for you, because you have an axe to grind with your agenda against anyone who does not comply with the shots. And, you often get nasty too... So guess who doesn't care if you don't believe it after months of discussion...
If anecdotes and flawed low quality non-peered observational studies count as evidence then I have a bridge to sell you.

Here is a Meta-Analysis of 10 RCT's showing no benefit of Ivermectin against COVID -19. Let's see if you can accurately interpret and breakdown this systematic review.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...iab591/6310839

 
Old 08-24-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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If anecdotes and flawed low quality non-peered observational studies count as evidence then I have a bridge to sell you.

Here is a Meta-Analysis of 10 RCT's showing no benefit of Ivermectin against COVID -19. Let's see if you can accurately interpret and breakdown this systematic review.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...iab591/6310839
Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study
Results

"Ivermectin prophylaxis was taken by 76 controls and 41 cases. Two-dose ivermectin prophylaxis (AOR 0.27, 95% CI, 0.15–0.51) was associated with a 73% reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers for the following month. "


I think the study I found last night is easier to read ...
 
Old 08-24-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study
Results

"Ivermectin prophylaxis was taken by 76 controls and 41 cases. Two-dose ivermectin prophylaxis (AOR 0.27, 95% CI, 0.15–0.51) was associated with a 73% reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers for the following month. "


I think the study I found last night is easier to read ...
Not compelling at all. RCT's are always superior to Case control studies as case control studies have problems such as matching creates selection bias, matching distorts dose-response relations between matching variables and the outcome, and matched analyses suffers from sparse-data bias.

Why use an inferior studies wrought with problems when we have superior studies on the effectiveness of Ivermectin?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2777389
 
Old 08-24-2021, 10:30 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Role of ivermectin in the prevention of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers in India: A matched case-control study
Results

"Ivermectin prophylaxis was taken by 76 controls and 41 cases. Two-dose ivermectin prophylaxis (AOR 0.27, 95% CI, 0.15–0.51) was associated with a 73% reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers for the following month. "


I think the study I found last night is easier to read ...
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Not compelling at all. RCT's are always superior to Case control studies as case control studies have problems such as matching creates selection bias, matching distorts dose-response relations between matching variables and the outcome, and matched analyses suffers from sparse-data bias.

Why use an inferior studies wrought with problems when we have superior studies on the effectiveness of Ivermectin?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2777389
The part the sticks out for me are the dates of the studies --- the one in Feb that states 73% reduction was a, A matched case-control study on hospital personnel. ( India, from September to October 2020)

Others to follow after EU vaccine release ... A Randomized Clinical Trial - 2021

If it works, don't fix it ...
 
Old 08-24-2021, 12:32 PM
 
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The part the sticks out for me are the dates of the studies --- the one in Feb that states 73% reduction was a, A matched case-control study on hospital personnel. ( India, from September to October 2020)

Others to follow after EU vaccine release ... A Randomized Clinical Trial - 2021

If it works, don't fix it ...
So you believe one inferior matched case-control study over the gold standard in clinical research to assess the effectiveness of a drug which is the Randomized Controlled Trial?? Of which we have over a dozen that state there are no benefits of Ivermectin for COVID-19.

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Old 08-24-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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So you believe one inferior matched case-control study over the gold standard in clinical research to assess the effectiveness of a drug which is the Randomized Controlled Trial?? Of which we have over a dozen that state there are no benefits of Ivermectin for COVID-19.
Some of those "studies" showing the medicine did not work ended up being fake.
 
Old 08-24-2021, 03:52 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Here's what we need to soothe the minds of the unvaccinated but the US FDA will never approve it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covaxin
I thought J&J was an inactivated virus vaccine?
 
Old 08-24-2021, 05:15 PM
 
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Who profits from preventable deaths besides undertakers?
 
Old 08-24-2021, 05:16 PM
 
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The doctor profession has been losing customers for decades with arrogance and malpractice, but monopolization has prevented greater losses. Now it is in serious jeopardy, when people go to farm stores for animal medicine instead of doctors for prescriptions.
 
Old 08-24-2021, 07:13 PM
 
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Some of those "studies" showing the medicine did not work ended up being fake.
Instead of accurately interpreting and breaking down the systematic review I provided this is the best response that you can provide? That it's fake

None of the RCT's that I linked ended up being fake, This is a flat out false claim. Of course we know you won't produce any sources to your made up claims so I won't even ask.
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