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Republicans need to think about the future. It doesn't look good. Millennials are at an age where you normally see a swing to the right and that hasn't happened. Their base is literally dying out. If they don't change, they will struggle by the 2030s as the boomers die out.
What are you basing that on? If anything, Repubs are more fierce these days because direct opposition, well....look at what they've screwed up so far. I don't even know where to begin with how many crises we are in. The news is so busy with other things that they've not called us all racist for a while and not tried with the white guilt BS. The democrats literally want to take inheritances away from people, anything they can. Capital gains taxes on home sales after family deaths for middle class? Dems already don't understand that gas being 50% higher is basically a tax....on the poor. Lots of poor people drive ollllld trucks and vans that get 10mpg. Lots of that around here.
Millenials are making money now finally, if you think they want to hand it over to AOC and Bernie.... that's just not happening. The poor millennials living in Mom's basement will want that all free but that's every generation.
There is no evidence of widespread electoral fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
All Trump did was undermine and continues to undermine democracy in this country. So as bad as Afghanistan is right now....and Biden DID botch this.....the resurrection of Trump is far more dangerous to this country. There is no comparison.
All Trump did was undermine and continues to undermine democracy in this country. So as bad as Afghanistan is right now....and Biden DID botch this.....the resurrection of Trump is far more dangerous to this country. There is no comparison.
He's not doing anything other than shaking his head at our country being flushed down the toilet and smirking because he called all of this is is my guess. Do you know how many complaining liberals I've had to verbatim say "You wanted meanie pants gone, well he's gone. And this is what we get in his place. Don't want to hear it."
He can base his whole campaign in '24 ITYS!!! (I told you so!)
I don't regret my vote at all, nor do a majority of Americans as evidenced by the fact that Biden's approval rating remains higher than Trump's vote share.
First of all, your comments about election fraud are false. But you'll never change your mind since your corporate media handlers have influenced you, so debating you on this point is a waste of my time.
Secondly, the election of 2020 was a binary choice. Donald Trump is a racist. Donald Trump is cruel. Donald Trump is stupid. Donald Trump is an authoritarian. Donald Trump is a liar. Donald Trump is disloyal to our country. Donald Trump failed to properly respond to COVID. Donald Trump's Keynesian economic and trade policies helped weaken the economy and increase inflation. Donald Trump undermined the constitution, civil liberties, and free enterprise. Donald Trump continued foreign policy adventurism, except for in Afghanistan where he had no plan in place to properly withdrawal.
I don't regret my vote at all. I never will.
So the question really is, will I (and other former Republicans and independents who voted for Biden in 2020) support President Biden in 2024 if Donald Trump is the GOP nominee again? For me personally, unless the Libertarian Party nominates someone I really like, the answer is yes. Not as an endorsement of Biden's policies, but to defeat Donald Trump. I believe most independents and former Republicans who voted for Biden last time will do so again if the GOP nominee is Trump again.
How about if the GOP nominates someone else? Personally, I won't support anyone who continues to support Trump. For most, it depends on national conditions in three years from now. I do believe a Republican such as Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, or Mike Pompeo who try to sound like Trump and agree with him on virtually everything would have a difficult time in a general election. Someone like Nikki Haley or Tim Scott who have generally been supportive of Trump's policies but also have condemned some of his words and behaviors would be viable candidates if people disapprove of Biden's job performance.
Do you realize how stupid the bolded sounds? I was taking you seriously until that.
I don't regret my vote at all, nor do a majority of Americans as evidenced by the fact that Biden's approval rating remains higher than Trump's vote share.
First of all, your comments about election fraud are false. But you'll never change your mind since your corporate media handlers have influenced you, so debating you on this point is a waste of my time.
Secondly, the election of 2020 was a binary choice. Donald Trump is a racist. Donald Trump is cruel. Donald Trump is stupid. Donald Trump is an authoritarian. Donald Trump is a liar. Donald Trump is disloyal to our country. Donald Trump failed to properly respond to COVID. Donald Trump's Keynesian economic and trade policies helped weaken the economy and increase inflation. Donald Trump undermined the constitution, civil liberties, and free enterprise. Donald Trump continued foreign policy adventurism, except for in Afghanistan where he had no plan in place to properly withdrawal.
I don't regret my vote at all. I never will.
So the question really is, will I (and other former Republicans and independents who voted for Biden in 2020) support President Biden in 2024 if Donald Trump is the GOP nominee again? For me personally, unless the Libertarian Party nominates someone I really like, the answer is yes. Not as an endorsement of Biden's policies, but to defeat Donald Trump. I believe most independents and former Republicans who voted for Biden last time will do so again if the GOP nominee is Trump again.
How about if the GOP nominates someone else? Personally, I won't support anyone who continues to support Trump. For most, it depends on national conditions in three years from now. I do believe a Republican such as Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, or Mike Pompeo who try to sound like Trump and agree with him on virtually everything would have a difficult time in a general election. Someone like Nikki Haley or Tim Scott who have generally been supportive of Trump's policies but also have condemned some of his words and behaviors would be viable candidates if people disapprove of Biden's job performance.
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Originally Posted by JohnBoy64
All Trump did was undermine and continues to undermine democracy in this country. So as bad as Afghanistan is right now....and Biden DID botch this.....the resurrection of Trump is far more dangerous to this country. There is no comparison.
You're both right.
I would absolutely vote for Biden again.
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I don't regret my vote at all, nor do a majority of Americans as evidenced by the fact that Biden's approval rating remains higher than Trump's vote share.
First of all, your comments about election fraud are false. But you'll never change your mind since your corporate media handlers have influenced you, so debating you on this point is a waste of my time.
Secondly, the election of 2020 was a binary choice. Donald Trump is a racist. Donald Trump is cruel. Donald Trump is stupid. Donald Trump is an authoritarian. Donald Trump is a liar. Donald Trump is disloyal to our country. Donald Trump failed to properly respond to COVID. Donald Trump's Keynesian economic and trade policies helped weaken the economy and increase inflation. Donald Trump undermined the constitution, civil liberties, and free enterprise. Donald Trump continued foreign policy adventurism, except for in Afghanistan where he had no plan in place to properly withdrawal.
I don't regret my vote at all. I never will.
So the question really is, will I (and other former Republicans and independents who voted for Biden in 2020) support President Biden in 2024 if Donald Trump is the GOP nominee again? For me personally, unless the Libertarian Party nominates someone I really like, the answer is yes. Not as an endorsement of Biden's policies, but to defeat Donald Trump. I believe most independents and former Republicans who voted for Biden last time will do so again if the GOP nominee is Trump again.
How about if the GOP nominates someone else? Personally, I won't support anyone who continues to support Trump. For most, it depends on national conditions in three years from now. I do believe a Republican such as Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, or Mike Pompeo who try to sound like Trump and agree with him on virtually everything would have a difficult time in a general election. Someone like Nikki Haley or Tim Scott who have generally been supportive of Trump's policies but also have condemned some of his words and behaviors would be viable candidates if people disapprove of Biden's job performance.
I agree with every word. There you have it, OP. I join my voice to the many others on this thread who don't regret voting for Biden. Because, even if he wasn't our favorite, it was imperative to get rid of Trump. And I will never vote for Trump or a Trumper.
But if Republicans nominate a decent person in 2024, I will consider voting GOP. Or if there is a viable 3rd party. I don't think you have to worry about Biden running in 2024 - he will be 82 - plus I doubt Trump will run again. So it will be Harris vs......who? Choose wisely this time.
What are you basing that on? If anything, Repubs are more fierce these days because direct opposition, well....look at what they've screwed up so far. I don't even know where to begin with how many crises we are in. The news is so busy with other things that they've not called us all racist for a while and not tried with the white guilt BS. The democrats literally want to take inheritances away from people, anything they can. Capital gains taxes on home sales after family deaths for middle class? Dems already don't understand that gas being 50% higher is basically a tax....on the poor. Lots of poor people drive ollllld trucks and vans that get 10mpg. Lots of that around here.
Millenials are making money now finally, if you think they want to hand it over to AOC and Bernie.... that's just not happening. The poor millennials living in Mom's basement will want that all free but that's every generation.
Taxes do need to be raised or major cuts need to be made. Choose which one you like and understand the consequences.
The vast majority of people don't have to worry about the estate tax. When the current exemption rates expire, we will be at a level where making sure the transferability is properly recorded. Very few estates are worth $5 million. I do worry about the tax implications for the elimination of the step up provision because it's going to be all so fun dealing with capital gains on an investment from 1970.
You guys don’t even realize Biden is president now, Biden makes a order against generals advice and it’s Trumps fault! Lol! Biden is obviously incompetent more then Trump could ever be, but you want to blame Trump for Biden’s failures.
So you’ve got nothing when it comes to good things Biden has done, you just like him because he isn’t someone else.
Do try to follow along; the topic of this thread is why people voted for Biden, not what they think of his presidency 7 months in. And I'd agree that many who voted for Biden did so because he wasn't Trump. Biden was not my first (or second or third) choice among the Democratic candidates, but Biden is what we got.
Do try to follow along; the topic of this thread is why people voted for Biden, not what they think of his presidency 7 months in. And I'd agree that many who voted for Biden did so because he wasn't Trump. Biden was not my first (or second or third) choice among the Democratic candidates, but Biden is what we got.
But some are blaming Trump for what Biden has done, the sad thing is Biden has only been president going on 8 months and messed up the borders and messed up big time in Afghanistan. Shudder what he will mess up before the next presidential election. No matter how many times Biden messes up, they will always find a way to blame Trump.
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