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Old 08-23-2021, 04:50 AM
 
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That makes us quitters. But are we even doing in Iraq, Syria, Niger, or Kuwait. We can crush ISIS when we want, but we just sat on our hands.



America is the quitter monkeys now



So USA has terrible anxiety issues.



France was not really a superpower at the time of the World Wars. Their power waned since Napoleon. I read somewhere their population had shrunk even by the Franco-Prussian War and kept declining since.
"So USA has terrible anxiety issues."

Speak for yourself. I NEVER gave you permission to speak for ME!
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Old 08-23-2021, 04:57 AM
 
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American has no more right to poke fun of and make jokes regarding France and its ability to fight wars.

France has often been the butt of jokes made by Americans because there is a this perceived notion France surrenders too easily, or because they have losing record according to America.

Well now America is in that same category. We lost in Nam. We lost in AStan. Korean War stalemated. Well actually, America was winning until the Chinese came, and pushed America back. Maybe that should count as a loss. As for Iraq, I am not sure what we won, or gained.
When was the last time Americans surrendered our homeland to armed & hostile foreign invaders in less than a month?

The closest thing to that is Biden surrendering our homeland to non hostile foreigners via the southern border.
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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Default " According to 'America"????? who speaks for America?

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American has no more right to poke fun of and make jokes regarding France and its ability to fight wars.

France has often been the butt of jokes made by Americans because there is a this perceived notion France surrenders too easily, or because they have losing record according to America.

Well now America is in that same category. We lost in Nam. We lost in AStan. Korean War stalemated. Well actually, America was winning until the Chinese came, and pushed America back. Maybe that should count as a loss. As for Iraq, I am not sure what we won, or gained.
How is that maginot line doing these days?

This month marks 50 years since Algeria won independence from France....he pain and suffering of one of the bloodiest colonial wars in history.

VN.....Ho Chi Minh's Viet Minh forces decisively defeat the French at Dien Bien Phu, a French stronghold besieged by the Vietnamese communists for 57 days.

Napolean defeated....

The French helped us break from Britian, French patriots during WW2 critical, French good ally. W/O US troops in France and across Europe during WW2, French would be a lost language.

US did not lose in VN, the war was won after the TET offensive, the media and political pressure ended that war.

It was Obama/Biden and now Biden who pushed America down.

America has come to the aid of every crisis around the globe while European countries including France, make arrangements to meet in Bruge, 6 months down the road, then confab and issue a statement of indignation. Job completed, responsibility to global community accomplished.

Iraq? chemcial Ali, sadaam's BIL all those media images of people killed with poison gas, Sadaam bragging about his poison gas stocks. The US would have gained more going into Iran as the Iranian people would have welcomed the US invasion and overthrow of the mullahs.

"because they have losing record according to America." According to 'America"????? who speaks for America?
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Old 08-23-2021, 05:59 AM
 
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in terms of getting their own people out AND ours.
That is how you win wars. Goofy.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:01 AM
 
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Sure they do.
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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WOW! Somebody sure likes to insult people.


Of course if they were standing right in front of them face to face......!
Well, sorry I touched a nerve. So you are one of the guys who wears the "America, 2 time World War champion" or something incredibly stupid like that?
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Old 08-23-2021, 06:54 AM
 
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Well, sorry I touched a nerve. So you are one of the guys who wears the "America, 2 time World War champion" or something incredibly stupid like that?

3 x World Champion (include the Cold War). Imagine a cage match and you are the only one standing. You would be bragging too.


We get so bored with ourselves that We make lots of parking lots around the world. We have so many toys to try and envy comes with the territory and We love it!
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:07 AM
 
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The American military didn't lose the war or individual battles. The politicians lost Afghanistan not setting or following a more clear cut strategy after the original terrorists and issues were dealt with.

The French had to be bailed out of 2 World Wars have difficulty defending their homeland. Does the Maginot Line ring a bell.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:16 AM
 
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When has the politicians never been at fault for any loss for any country? If the military of any country had their way, they fight to last man, and mobilize entire nations. When France lost it was mainly their politics too.



We have more soldiers kill themselves than die in combat. Enemy dont even need to kill US troops.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio/program...combat/5085070

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...hemselves-2001



Not when you surrender to the enemy in your own country and you have no choice. France declared war on Germany and then the Germans came to their country and moped the floor with them and occupied them and made them bend the knee in their own country. Nothing like that has ever happened with the U.S and never will.



It shows you We have the baddest military on earth and no enemy can touch us and our issues are internal. We have never surrender. On the battlefield We are 2nd to none. Now you change the topic to suicides. You really dislike our military by your posts. I read a mile away.
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Old 08-23-2021, 07:25 AM
 
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France showed the world that if you can't back it up don't declare war on a country that can clearly kick your behind in your own house and make you surrender at your own dinner table in front of your family.


France has that stain on them forever. We don't.
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