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We have restrictions related to the public health emergency like most places. Many I don't agree with and think are unnecessary. And yes in general being outdoor should be the preferred location and is the safest. Unfortunately in and around Sydney, that isn't possible at the moment.
No one got handcuffed for gathering outdoors. They were handcuffed for disobeying a lawful direction.
And yes, you probably saw the Victorian Premier who in my opinion is the worst State Premier and should be charged in relation to the deaths of 900 aged care residents and then for lying to an inquiry relating to those deaths.
But yes, I'm free. No mask, no restrictions and no covid to speak of in my State. Until it creeps over the border again. But hopefully Vaccination rates will continue to progress at the current rapid rate.
So just like in America, some states do things differently to others. I have heard far more unhinged phobia from US politicians than Australian that's for sure.
Here is a rule of thumb for you at the moment. Disregard anything you see or read on the internet about Australia's response to covid until you have referenced it to reliable sources first. It will be wrong 95% of the time.
I'm very discerning about the sources. The source was a news clip from a MSM 'news Sydney' or something like that, but now I can't find it, but maybe the content can be vetted on its own merits:
It began with a Covid positive 27 year old guy who left his apartment and (possibly) sneezed in an elevator. The police were hunting him down. Then it showed a group teen boys handcuffed on their knees, after being chased with helicopters and spotlights. And then some sports star who took a ride in his car farther than he should have and couldn't give a "proper reason" for doing so. What does that even mean??? You can't drive in your car? What is a 'proper reason?' And then a construction site where they were checking for people's proper paperwork (whatever that is...QR codes?), and sending them home if they didn't have it. It ended with a worker being sent home without pay and facing a steep fine. The news bobblehead, who isn't missing any paychecks, mentioned that it might cause him problems with feeding his family, oh well, but the gist of it was we can't really tolerate 'rule breakers.' But 'the rules' are a violation of basic human rights.
I'm aware there are odd clips floating around Twitter that could be misleading, but this was a mainstream source. So are these things true: You can't work unless you show papers? You can't drive in your car wherever you want? Can't gather outdoors? Need to be tracked with a QR code? And is protest about all of this allowed?
It’s getting a bit uglier as time marches on. It’s their sixth damn lockdown, totaling over 200 days The people are exhausted, angry, and pushing back on government overreach.
Bourke Shire Council, in the state’s north-west, killed the dogs to prevent volunteers at a Cobar-based animal shelter from travelling to pick up the animals last week, according to council’s watchdog, the Office of Local Government.
This is sick. It's like when the Danes killed millions of minks. This is what mass psychosis looks like. People suspend their normal ethics and morals.
The OP and others suffering from Vaccine Derangement Syndrome are attempting to paint Australia in a negative light by making up fantasies, as a warning to Americans not to give up their freedoms.
VDS seems more debilitating than TDS.
Aaw; you upset it's your country's turn in the American dissing on others barrel?
If it's not true, you had better tell the hundreds of thousands of Aussies protesting in the cities and the truckies who have warned residents to stock up on supplies before they shut down the country and take down the government with help from veterans.
Sorry, Lefties, your fake news (controlled by China?) has been lying to you.
So why don't you enlighten us, are you free in Australia? Doesn't look like it. I watched a clip from a mainstream news broadcast from Sydney where they handcuffed a bunch of kids for gathering outdoors. Just so you know, gathering outdoors is NOT a virus risk. People should be outdoors--especially kids. It's healthy. I've heard the authorities give speeches where they sound like they are in the grips of a contagion phobia desperately in need of psych meds.
i saw a video of a 12 year old girl get peppered sprayed because she was not wearing a mask.
I'm very discerning about the sources. The source was a news clip from a MSM 'news Sydney' or something like that, but now I can't find it, but maybe the content can be vetted on its own merits:
It began with a Covid positive 27 year old guy who left his apartment and (possibly) sneezed in an elevator. The police were hunting him down.
Covid positive people are not allowed out in the community to infect other people. What an idiot. He is obligated by law to self isolate. What about that is hard to understand? Do you suggest we don’t enforce the law?
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Then it showed a group teen boys handcuffed on their knees, after being chased with helicopters and spotlights.
Not saying it didn’t happen, but do you have a source? I haven’t seen this.
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And then some sports star who took a ride in his car farther than he should have and couldn't give a "proper reason" for doing so. What does that even mean??? You can't drive in your car? What is a 'proper reason?'
The proper reasons are:
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Reasonable excuse to leave home
A reasonable excuse is if you need to
obtain food or other goods and services
for the personal needs of the household or for other household purposes (including pets)
for vulnerable people
only one person per household may leave the home to obtain food or other goods and services each day (you may take a dependent person with you if that person cannot be left at home on their own)
the goods and services must be obtained within the local government area where you live, or within 5km of where you live, but not in an area of concern; unless the goods or services, or their equivalent, are not reasonably available within the local government area where you live, or within 5km of where you live.
leave home to go to work if
you cannot reasonably work from home and
the business is allowed to be open and
you comply with relevant rules for COVID-19 tests for Sydney workers.
leave home for education if it is not possible to do it at home
exercise and take outdoor recreation within your local government area or, if you need to cross into another local government area, stay within 5km of your home
go out for medical or caring reasons, including obtaining a COVID-19 vaccination.
See the list of other reasonable excuses.
Moving house
A reasonable excuse is if you need to
move to a new place of residence within Greater Sydney or
move between different places of residence within Greater Sydney or
inspect a potential new place of residence within Greater Sydney.
It is a reasonable excuse for you to
travel to a different place of residence outside Greater Sydney if
you are moving for work, and other people (such as the people you live with) do not move with you or
the movement is for urgent maintenance or repairs or animal welfare and only one person moves to the other place of residence to attend to the urgent need
inspect a potential new place of residence outside Greater Sydney if you have a genuine intention to move to and live at the new place of residence as soon as practicable (not an investment property) or
are moving to a new place of residence outside Greater Sydney.
From 21 August 2021, you need a permit issued by Service NSW in order to move between residences, relocate or inspect a residence outside Greater Sydney.
It is a reasonable excuse to:
supervise or facilitate a business moving to new premises.
See the list of other reasonable excuses.
Rules for when you leave your home
Travelling by car
You may only travel in a car with other people that you live with, unless it is for
an emergency
a compassionate reason
to provide care or assistance to a vulnerable person
the car is being used as a taxi or rideshare.
You are allowed to share the car with a person you do not live with (carpool) if you are
required to use a vehicle for your work (for example, if you are a police officer working in a team of 2 people)
travelling with your nominated visitor ("singles bubble") to exercise outdoors.
Shopping
Stay within your local government area. You can cross into another local government area if it is within 5km of your home and it is not a local government area of concern (unless the food or goods or services or their equivalent are not reasonably available locally).
If travelling by a private vehicle (car), do not share a car with other people you do not live with.
Only 1 person per household may leave their home each day to shop for food or other goods and services.
You may take a dependent person with you if that person cannot be left at home on their own.
Go directly to and from the shops to get what you need. Do not spend time looking at other things.
Exercise and outdoor recreation
Stay within your local government area. If you need to cross into another local government area, you must stay within 5km of your home.
If travelling by a private vehicle (car), do not share a car with people you do not live with, except your nominated visitor ("singles bubble").
You can exercise with 1 other person that you do not live with, or your nominated visitor ("singles bubble").
If you live with more than 2 other people, you can all go out together for exercise.
Proof of address and not following the stay at home rules
You must carry proof of your address if you
have left your home for a reasonable excuse
are exercising outdoors or have left your home for outdoor recreation, or
have a reasonable excuse and are leaving Greater Sydney including the Blue Mountains and Wollongong local government areas.
You must show your proof of address if asked by the NSW Police.
You may be asked to return to your home by the NSW Police if the police have a reasonable suspicion you are not complying with the stay at home rules.
You must return home as soon as is reasonably practicable if NSW Police request you to return home.
You must provide true and accurate information to NSW Police if they ask you to return to your home.
Penalties may also apply if you do not follow the stay at home rules, without a reasonable excuse.
Other reasonable excuses
It is also considered a reasonable excuse to leave your home if you need to
donate blood
access childcare
continue existing arrangements for access to, and contact between, parents and children
attend a funeral or memorial service that complies with the rules for funerals and memorial services
provide care or assistance (including personal care) to a vulnerable person or to provide emergency assistance
2 people may visit a residence for carers' responsibilities or to provide care or assistance at any one time, if 2 people are required for care to be provided safely. A child who is a dependant of a carer can also visit, if the child requires supervision and childcare arrangements are not reasonably available.
access social services, employment services, services provided to victims (including as victims of crime), domestic violence services, and mental health services
undertake legal obligations
avoid injury or illness or to escape the risk of harm
in case of emergencies
for compassionate reasons, including where two people are in a relationship but do not necessarily live together
to provide pastoral care if you are a priest, minister of religion or member of a religious order
gathering at Parliament for the purpose of its normal operations.
Taking a holiday is not a reasonable excuse.
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And then a construction site where they were checking for people's proper paperwork (whatever that is...QR codes?), and sending them home if they didn't have it. It ended with a worker being sent home without pay and facing a steep fine. The news bobblehead, who isn't missing any paychecks, mentioned that it might cause him problems with feeding his family, oh well, but the gist of it was we can't really tolerate 'rule breakers.' But 'the rules' are a violation of basic human rights.
If you are in a certain hotspot area (not all of Sydney) you need to get a Covid test every 3 days in order to work on a job site. If you are unable to work, the government will pay you $750 a week, paid immediately into your bank account about an hour after you make your claim. You only need to have lost a total of one day of work to trigger the payment.
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I'm aware there are odd clips floating around Twitter that could be misleading, but this was a mainstream source. So are these things true: You can't work unless you show papers? You can't drive in your car wherever you want? Can't gather outdoors? Need to be tracked with a QR code? And is protest about all of this allowed?
Well no, there’s a lockdown in place.
In other posts you’ve stated lockdowns don’t work. Well they certainly don’t work if they aren’t enforced. And to be fair, which nobody ever is, there were minimal infringements handed out the first few weeks. Mainly warnings and cautions, by the cops. But people will take advantage of every loophole they can find until the law actually needs enforcing.
No one is a fan of lockdowns. But while we all have to do it, don’t friggin goof off and make it all worthless for the people that are actually obeying the law.
i saw a video of a 12 year old girl get peppered sprayed because she was not wearing a mask.
No you didn’t.
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Masks should not be worn by toddlers under 2 years of age and babies, as they are a choking and suffocation risk. Children 12 years and under are exempt but are encouraged to wear masks where practicable.
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