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Old 08-22-2021, 02:22 PM
 
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This Friday August 27th is the deadline for me to submit my affirmation about being vaccinated.

I am unsure about a few of the processes.

1. I don't want to admit that I am not vaccinated. I can just not submit the form but I think he language of the policy was that I shall fill out and return the form. So is that now a condition of employment? So I considered just adding an option that I decline to answer due to privacy reasons or some such. Should I just admit it? Had I ever thought this policy would be in effect I would have been a greater lier. My boss came out and asked me in March and I was so obviously caught off guard he presumed. The policy provides that they can request proof of vaccination randomly.

2. The policy specifically states that covid tests will be at my own cost, but also declines to state exactly what kind of tests will suffice. I have recently learned that insurance does NOT have to pay for the tests for "routine" testing. And at the same time I got a scary EOB that I can't make out from my insurance stating that they paid $150 for a test (but also saying I owed 150). What are my options if my insurance won't pay. The cost for 2x per week covid PCR testing will be 16K for a year.

3. What will be the effect of the FDA approval? Will that mean then that employers can straight up require it without the testing frequently option?

Thanks for info you can provide.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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If my employer required the vaccine, I would get the vaccine. If I got sick from the vaccine, I would sue my employer.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:30 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Unfortunately, you are in a tight spot. To bow to tyranny or not.

I know what I would do, but I don't have a whole lot to lose. They can guillotine me on the town square if that would give them their thrills. But For those who do have a lot to lose, the state/corporations know they have everyone under their thumb. We're back to the cowboys and the herd (we being the herd).
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:31 PM
 
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If my employer required the vaccine, I would get the vaccine. If I got sick from the vaccine, I would sue my employer.
Ha -- good luck finding a doctor that will admit your illness was caused by the vaccine.

Don't you know, they are "safe and effective".
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:34 PM
 
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Ha -- good luck finding a doctor that will admit your illness was caused by the vaccine.

Don't you know, they are "safe and effective".
Yes, very hard to prove. And on top of that, the manufacturers have 100% legal immunity. Everyone who took the vaccine could drop over dead tomorrow and nobody could touch the manufacturers or developers of the vaccines.
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Old 08-22-2021, 02:56 PM
 
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Yes, very hard to prove. And on top of that, the manufacturers have 100% legal immunity. Everyone who took the vaccine could drop over dead tomorrow and nobody could touch the manufacturers or developers of the vaccines.
Considering getting the J&J and then saw this

Deaths from Janssen vaccines' investigated

https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/08/...igated/1811718
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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Considering getting the J&J and then saw this

Deaths from Janssen vaccines' investigated

https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/08/...igated/1811718
Yep. For what little time I have actually considered getting one of the vaccines, that was the one I was considering. Unfortunately, it seems to be the one with the most problems (deaths and reactions).
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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If they want vaccine hesitant people to get jabbed they should fast track the "inactivated virus" vaccines such as Covaxin. Fact is people don't necessarily trust our government and the FDA and if something is approved in other established countries around the world, there should be a way to fast track the approval process here in the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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If they want vaccine hesitant people to get jabbed they should fast track the "inactivated virus" vaccines such as Covaxin. Fact is people don't necessarily trust our government and the FDA and if something is approved in other established countries around the world, there should be a way to fast track the approval process here in the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124
THANKS FOR POSTING!!

Very interesting articles that I think I would find much more appealing than Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca, etc. I wonder why we are not hearing more about them -- and when and if they will be available in the U.S.?
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Old 08-22-2021, 03:39 PM
 
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