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T eam Trump struggles to defend former president's Taliban deal
Asked about the Trump administration's 2020 deal with the Taliban, Nikki Haley tried to change the subject. That's understandable, but it's insufficient.
Trump made a deal but short of bombing the crap out of the country and then waiting for unconditional surrender, how else were we supposed to get out with any attempt to leave a functioning country? We all knew it would devolve eventually, but at least we could get our people out first and not leave tons of weapons, planes and armored vehicles behind for a bunch of crazy people. And that part is entirely on Joe Biden and his team.
You are misinformed, simply delusional, or intentionally ignorant of the facts.
Pulling out was the right thing to do. We should have done so long ago. Our trust in the Afghans to defend themselves and push back at the Taliban was ill advised and misplaced. The outcome would be the same regardless of the time chosen to leave. American civilians choosing to stay once the decision was made to pull troops out months ago were stupid, greedy, or somehow convinced they were immune to reprisals or ill will. Allies were not uninformed that we were withdrawing our troops.
Was Trump's agreement with the Taliban so bad that we should have revoked it and stayed for years longer?
What part of it isn’t the timing of the withdrawal, it’s the complete and utter failure of Biden’s administration to perform the withdrawal with competence don’t you understand? Very few people are saying we should have stayed. Most sane people, though, are wondering how a supposedly competent POTUS managed to completely bungle it.
Biden is correct. Biden has character and integrity, he's an honorable man.
A career politician such as is Biden, imbued with character and integrity? Such an animal would be possible in a world where Elves ride unicorns through woods filled with trees with bark of solid silver and leaves of purest gold. Birds that sing with the voices of angels and woodland animals articulate wisdom worthy of of rapt attention bordering on worship.
Alas we live in a world of grim reality where humans are the evilest and most dishonorable form of life ever to walk the ground. A politicians are the absolute worst form of varmint among all humans. They are thief, thug, robber liar, cheat and murderer all rolled into one septic festering form. That is their character which is devoid of anything resembling honor and the only integrity they have is in their allegiance to their character.
They gladly step over a sea of dead bodies to see their goals obtained. Their desired end justifies any and all means and they have not one single thin hair of decency anywhere on their bodies. No more miserable and disgusting form of life has ever existed than a politician and Biden is consummate among them all.
A 50 year career belly slithering rodent politician. Character integrity and honor. LOL, ain't he just a marvel to behold.
Trump made a deal but short of bombing the crap out of the country and then waiting for unconditional surrender, how else were we supposed to get out with any attempt to leave a functioning country? We all knew it would devolve eventually, but at least we could get our people out first and not leave tons of weapons, planes and armored vehicles behind for a bunch of crazy people. And that part is entirely on Joe Biden and his team.
That would be a 3 day exercise. We are not talking China. Trump never took it off the table. No POTUS should. All our enemies need to fear us again, as if their lives truly depend on it. Not so we bomb all of them, but fear does alter behavior. We must be willing to eliminate the existence of enemy nations, if needed, without flinching.
Just as the best Democratic POTUS did: Harry Truman.
Trump made a deal but short of bombing the crap out of the country and then waiting for unconditional surrender, how else were we supposed to get out with any attempt to leave a functioning country? We all knew it would devolve eventually, but at least we could get our people out first and not leave tons of weapons, planes and armored vehicles behind for a bunch of crazy people. And that part is entirely on Joe Biden and his team.
So why didn't Trump start removing equipment last year, do you have any idea the task to remove 20 years of equipment and how do you explain that to the Afghan military. Sorry but we know you're going to collapse so we need to remove everything now.
Once we started removing the first wave of people out this was going to collapse. We already had the same experience in Vietnam and Iraq, why do you think that this would turn out different. Too many military experts on here that know just how to run an evacuation.
That would be a 3 day exercise. We are not talking China. Trump never took it off the table. No POTUS should. All our enemies need to fear us again, as if their lives truly depend on it. Not so we bomb all of them, but fear does alter behavior. We must be willing to eliminate the existence of enemy nations, if needed, without flinching.
Just as the best Democratic POTUS did: Harry Truman.
Sure let's use the "make our enemies fear us again" foreign policy that has failed over and over. If bombing Afghanistan was a winning strategy both the US and Russia would have won, wars are not won from the air they are won on the ground.
So why didn't Trump start removing equipment last year, do you have any idea the task to remove 20 years of equipment and how do you explain that to the Afghan military. Sorry but we know you're going to collapse so we need to remove everything now.
Once we started removing the first wave of people out this was going to collapse. We already had the same experience in Vietnam and Iraq, why do you think that this would turn out different. Too many military experts on here that know just how to run an evacuation.
Isn’t it interesting that Biden was also in charge of the Iraq Debacle that gave the World ISIS.
We never faced a must leave date that is enforceable, folks.
Contrary to the way Sleepy Joe acts, we are the world's superpower. If we opt to use force, no itty bitty backwards ME nation can push us out.
In the various ME war efforts post 9/11, we literally decimated as long as wished to, and the rate of casualties exceeded 20-1 with 20 being our enemies.
That is why Trump knew after using MOAB, his threat to erase the Taliban would be heard. Until JB gave them the all clear, they were hiding most of the prior administration.
Sure let's use the "make our enemies fear us again" foreign policy that has failed over and over. If bombing Afghanistan was a winning strategy both the US and Russia would have won, wars are not won from the air they are won on the ground.
19+ years w/o a 9-11 = mission accomplished. That is what post 9-11 wars were about. Not nation-building, not winning in a traditional way, they were about spraying regions for roaches, a/k/a jihadists. Killing future OBLs.
The key is to keep using roach spray, btw.
Russia was after traditional war victories-and that was their error.
That would be a 3 day exercise. We are not talking China. Trump never took it off the table. No POTUS should. All our enemies need to fear us again, as if their lives truly depend on it. Not so we bomb all of them, but fear does alter behavior. We must be willing to eliminate the existence of enemy nations, if needed, without flinching.
Just as the best Democratic POTUS did: Harry Truman.
I know that. I was saying that in order to get out with some semblance of a country left, the only way is to make a deal with the enemy or inflict enough casualties on them that they surrender. Therefore making a deal with the Taliban was the only way we could extricate ourselves from the country and possibly leave it in a better state than it was when we came there. We all know that wouldn’t last very long with that crew, but at least get our people out and get the weapons out or destroy them.
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Such an animal would be possible in a world where Elves ride unicorns through woods filled with trees with bark of solid silver and leaves of purest gold. Birds that sing with the voices of angels and woodland animals articulate wisdom worthy of of rapt attention bordering on worship. 
