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Old 08-25-2021, 06:21 AM
 
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covid vaccine may risk one's natural immunity to covid

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Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

July 13, 2021

Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.


"Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination."

Also see: Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then Vaccine Immunity

8/5/2021

“Dr. Marty Makary, a professor at John Hopkins School of Medicine, during an appearance on The Vince Coglianese Show, said individuals formerly infected with COVID-19 are seven times more likely then vaccinated people to fight off the virus.”

“It appears that natural immunity is better against the Delta variant. When you get infected with COVID, your body’s immune system develops antibodies to the entire surface of the virus,” Makary said. “Not just the slight protein that the vaccines gives you, but the entire surface. And so you get a more diverse antibody portfolio in your system.”


JWK

Thanks for sharing. This is normally how it works but people assumed the vaccine was superior.

As it turns out, the vaccine may interfere with one's natural immunity.

See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

JWK


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Old 08-25-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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This other thread provides the answer.

Vaccinated people are less infectious

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Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...ts-co-workers/

So you see folks, what many of us have been trying to warn you all about FOR A LONG TIME now is that you have been, and continue to be lied to, and much of what you have chosen to believe is EXACTLY OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH.

The Oxford University is not some right wing conspiracy peddling third rate institution. It’s one of the premier Universities in the world. The findings revealed in this study is not at all surprising, because what is being measured are not “whole viruses” but viral components or fragments (synthetic toxic spike proteins). And that stands to reason because the “vaccine” carries and introduces into your own body’s cells instructions (messenger RNA) to manufacture the spike protein. This, ladies and gentleman turns the “vaccinated” into literal viral production factories, which in turn makes the vaccinated person the threat to all those who come in close contact with them.

The psychopathic monsters behind this genocidal scheme have not only managed to convince you to accept the slow kill jab, but to also serve as walking, talking toxic poison delivery systems which spreads the poison wherever you go.

Of course, we must all now suffer from what was first born from deception and ignorance, but now continues through unimaginable levels of pure stupidity. What’s it gonna take for you people to open your eyes?

Those behind this “depopulation” scheme have revealed their plans in so many ways, from white papers, books, movies, even monolith monuments (Georgia Guide-stones) for Christ sake. And they do this for one specific reason .... they consider the masses unworthy of the resources they consume, which they have often referred to as “useless eaters”. They don’t consider you as intelligent like themselves, and therefore, their choice to eliminate you to preserve the earth’s precious resources for themselves and their prodigy, justified.

Many of you serve as poster children for their cause. STOP BEING THAT POSTER CHILD! WTFU
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Old 08-25-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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Bill Gates has said way too many times, publically at TED talks, regarding the number of people on Earth, "...the population, if we could get that number down 15, 20 percent, through vaccines or fertility adjustments..." his words not mine ...and he championed this "vaccine".

I would never willingly take it or put any trust in it, and normally I wouldn't oppose free enterprise but, this "No Jab No Job BS" needs to stop!

NOVAC
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Old 08-25-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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covid vaccine may risk one's natural immunity to covid




As it turns out, the vaccine may interfere with one's natural immunity.

See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

JWK


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Of course it does ... and many knowledgeable people have known this for longer than most posters here have been alive.

Prior to the last few decades of lies and propaganda and fear mongering, it was absolutely known that natural infections not only provide lifelong immunity to that specific disease, but also serves as an immune system strengthening mechanism to assist in combating other types of diseases.

The once common “childhood diseases” like measles, mumps, chickenpox viruses (all three of which I personally had as a child) were not feared .... we all got them, and while they weren’t overly pleasant, they were (as it turns out) essential to the development of robust immune systems.

Then, the saviors of human health came along with their miracle vaccines, which “protected” us from those diseases, but inadvertently led to huge increases in chronic diseases young people rarely suffered from before, in exchange for temporary vaccine “immunity”. Not a good trade.

How do you keep people believing in bad medical science for decades? Endless rivers of lies and propaganda.

For younger people, it’s just good common sense to embrace modern medicine and vaccines because that’s what they have been programmed to believe from birth, and do not have the same frame of reference that older people do.

Just one example that has some of us older folks literally holding our heads in pure disbelief is this INSANITY of vaccinating new born babies and pregnant women. Guys, it wasn’t that long ago when it was universally understood that pregnant women should be extremely vigilant in consuming anything, including common vitamins when carrying a child. Somehow, all of this basic common sense simply flew out the window, and the trusted health authorities now recommend drugging and vaccinating pregnant women? It’s pure MADNESS.

Another example of this insanity is injecting an hours old newborn with HepB vaccine! Why on earth would any sane person think that’s a good idea? Given the fact that Hepatitis B is a disease contracted primarily by engaging in unprotected sex and intravenous drug use, neither of which a newborn is likely to be at risk of doing, (extreme sarcasm), the only possibility left is either pure madness, or psychopathy.

Consequently, anyone advocating such practices as vaccinating infants with HepB .... doctors, nurses, FDA, CDC, anybody .... are either psychopaths or brainwashed morons ... neither of which should be trusted for providing good healthcare advice by anyone of sound mind.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:14 AM
 
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Bill Gates has said way too many times, publically at TED talks, regarding the number of people on Earth, "...the population, if we could get that number down 15, 20 percent, through vaccines or fertility adjustments..." his words not mine ...and he championed this "vaccine".

I would never willingly take it or put any trust in it, and normally I wouldn't oppose free enterprise but, this "No Jab No Job BS" needs to stop!

NOVAC
Oh yes, that is absolutely the primary goal openly discussed by Gates and others, but quietly, behind closed doors, the objective isn’t 15-20% reduction ... its 90+%, as inscribed on the Georgia Guide Stones “Maintain human population of 500,000,000 in perfect harmony with nature”.

Of course, you can’t just inject 7 Billion people and watch them all drop dead instantly.... that would be much too obvious, and even the dumbest of the sheep would say woah .. wait .. what’s going on, and refuse to roll up their sleeves. So this has been a long, incremental process of conditioning..... global warming is just another tactical element to convince people that they are an infection upon the earth, that must be eliminated. Few people actually take the time to evaluate the huge implications of overt statements like “reducing man made CO2 to near zero levels” which Gates has also said in his talks .... apparently people think he is referring to eliminating coal plants and SUV’s .... but given that we all exhale CO2, he is literally telling you that we need to reduce the number of people breathing to near zero levels .... which allows for him and his elitist friends to continue breathing.

This is why two of the primary long term effects of these vaccines is sterilization, and suppression of immune systems, which will result in much shorter lifespans and the inability to produce the next generation of useless eaters. Can’t kill em all too quickly, because you need to keep enough alive to burry the dead.

Sounds like a science fiction horror story. Unfortunately, we are living in one now.
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Old 08-25-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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The covidictators strike again. They are the Demstapo.
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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Default with respect to the covid vaccine jabbers, one size does not fit all

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Bill Gates has said way too many times, publically at TED talks, regarding the number of people on Earth, "...the population, if we could get that number down 15, 20 percent, through vaccines or fertility adjustments..." his words not mine ...and he championed this "vaccine".

I would never willingly take it or put any trust in it, and normally I wouldn't oppose free enterprise but, this "No Jab No Job BS" needs to stop!

NOVAC

It is interesting to note the survival rate to covid is about 99%. And, one’s own probability of surviving covid depends upon age and one’s own medical history, i.e., people with diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, chronic kidney disease, cancer, etc., are at a higher risk of death due to covid. These are the people who probably would benefit from the vaccine, while those who are at low risk and get covid, and beat it, do better with their natural immunity.



Why is this so hard for the vaccine jabbers to understand? One freaken size does not fit all.

And yes! One thing for certain, NYC’s one size fits all [No Vax, No Service] is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.


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Old 08-26-2021, 07:03 AM
 
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Default there is something very suspicious taking place in the United States

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covid vaccine may risk one's natural immunity to covid





As it turns out, the vaccine may interfere with one's natural immunity.

See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

JWK


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Of course it does ... and many knowledgeable people have known this for longer than most posters here have been alive.

Prior to the last few decades of lies and propaganda and fear mongering, it was absolutely known that natural infections not only provide lifelong immunity to that specific disease, but also serves as an immune system strengthening mechanism to assist in combating other types of diseases.

What is very, very suspicious, at least to me is, while the overall survival rate to covid is about 98%, and we know who the most vulnerable to the virus are and we can treat and protect them, why has our mainstream media been so intent on ignoring these factors and instead, generating mass hysteria and suggesting 24/7, "get the vaccine or die"?

It seems to me from the very beginning of the covid outbreak there has been a concerted effort by our mainstream media to encourage a course of action destructive, in many ways, to the general welfare of the United States rather than advocating a common sense approach avoiding a total undermining of America's way of life.

What I'm seeing, in the big picture is, our mainstream media is constantly promoting actions destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens [i.e., immigration policy; monetary policy; foreign policy; etc.] and its current handling of the Covid outbreak is just one more opportunity to help weaken and destroy America and subjugate the American people.

JWK
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:08 AM
 
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This other thread provides the answer.

Vaccinated people are less infectious

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Have to call COMPLETE BS on this. Get out of Biden’s and Fauci’s echo chamber! Vaccinated people can spread just as much as unvaccinated. In fact they are probably spreading it more because the leftist in the media and people like you are telling them that once they are vaxxed they can go back to normal. Nothing could be further from the truth.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...d-delta-easily
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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See: New York City Announces Vaccine Mandate for Certain Indoor Activities Effective Aug. 17

“On Aug. 3, 2021, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced “The Key to NYC” mandate which, beginning Aug. 17, requires patrons of indoor dining, indoor fitness, and indoor entertainment and performances to provide proof of COVID-19 vaccination.”

Now, what I don’t understand is, why are they allowing those who are transmitting the virus into New York City public accommodations?

We all know a covid free person does not threaten to transmit covid to anyone!

But our Covid hysterical crowd unwittingly gives a pass to those who have been vaccinated, allowing them to mingle in public accommodations even though fully vaccinated are spreading the virus ___ and they even go on to adopt a Draconian mandate " no vax, no service " to all others, even those who cannot transmit the virus because they are covid free.


JWK
The Covidictator commanded the Demstapo to force everyone to obey.
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