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Old 08-26-2021, 10:02 AM
 
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See: New York City Announces Vaccine Mandate for Certain Indoor Activities Effective Aug. 17

“On Aug. 3, 2021, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced “The Key to NYC” mandate which, beginning Aug. 17, requires patrons of indoor dining, indoor fitness, and indoor entertainment and performances to provide proof of COVID-19 vaccination.”

Now, what I don’t understand is, why are they allowing those who are transmitting the virus into New York City public accommodations?

We all know a covid free person does not threaten to transmit covid to anyone!

But our Covid hysterical crowd unwittingly gives a pass to those who have been vaccinated, allowing them to mingle in public accommodations even though fully vaccinated are spreading the virus ___ and they even go on to adopt a Draconian mandate " no vax, no service " to all others, even those who cannot transmit the virus because they are covid free.


JWK
The Covidictator commanded the Demstapo to force everyone to obey.

I can't believe how Newyorkers have turned into sheeple. It's disgraceful!

JWK
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:23 AM
 
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The unvaxxed are the problem, whether white, black or purple. YOU are the only one making this about race.
No HeyJude, arrogant and misinformed vaccine fascists like you are the problem. Perhaps you missed it but fully vaccinated people are now getting and dying from COVID, look at the numbers out of Israel, UK or Malta, most COVID patients in hospitals are fully vaccinated, and Israeli hospitals for ex. are running out of ICU beds and oxygen tanks. Not to mention you and so many other vaccine mandate extremists like you completely ignore the fact that many who've had COVID before have natural immunity better than other vaccine, so it's stupid to force them to get vaccinated, which may in fact cause health risks for people who already have antibodies. If anything some of the vaccinated are now an even greater danger to public health than the unvaccinated since they walk around like idiots pretending they're safe and can't spread COVID19, when in fact the CDC's own data shows vaxxed Americans spread COVID as much as unvaxxed do. Look up that epidemic in Provincetown MA, 80 percent of the victims were fully vaccinated, and in that hospital in SF where a lot of people died from COVID, most outbreak victims were fully vaxxed. Yet you can't get this through your thick skull. My wife and I are fully vaxxed but we're not stupid either, and all of us vaccinated at our resort take the proper precautions but we don't begrudge the unvaxxed either given all the new things we're learning and how inadequate the COVID vaccines currently are esp. the mrna vaccines, which Israel especially is showing are a failure with their latest outbreak.
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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Breakthrough infections are pretty rare, so the number of vaxxed people who could possibly be spreading the virus is a lot lower than the unvaxxed.
No they're not rare ansible90, did you miss the fact that almost all the victims of that COVID outbreak of the delta mutant up in Provincetown were fully vaccinated? Most victims and deaths from COVID in that SF hospital outbreak were fully vaxxed? That 3 of the world's most heavily vaccinated countries now, Israel, Iceland and Malta are all having among of world's worst COVID outbreaks, most COVID victims in hospitals and ICU's are fully vaccinated. The CDC's own data shows vaccinated Americans get and spread COVID as bad as unvaccinated, yes they have some protection for a few months from hospital for most part but even that goes away, it's why the CDC and FDA are now saying Americans need vaccine boosters after 6 months since vaccine protection fails so badly at that point. Breakthrough infections aren't rare at all. It only seemed like that way because CDC wasn't tracking them, so data from other countries and hospitals (like in SF or South Carolina) filled in gaps and even the CDC was forced to change it's tune.

I find find it funny here how so many in the extremist pro-vaccine crowd accuse the unvaccinated (or even the vaccinated but skeptical like us) of being misinformed when in fact, it's they who miss basic facts like this. Breakthrough infections with delta are very common, and if anything vaccinated Americans may be an even bigger threat by being stupid and having false sense of security when they're not protected. My wife and I are now both vaxxed but we're following all the precautions the resort is putting into place. 2 people here have died in the past week from COVID, both were fully vaccinated. Most of the unvaccinated are young people who are either healthy and less vulnerable, or have natural immunity to begin with.
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:40 AM
 
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I can't believe how Newyorkers have turned into sheeple. It's disgraceful!

JWK
Just because the government says to do something, does not always mean you should to the opposite.

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Old 08-26-2021, 10:40 AM
 
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Same type of person that thinks they'll stay dry under an umbrella with a few holes in it.
Good analogy. The data out of Israel and Iceland esp. (and CDC's own reports on waning immunity) show the COVID vaccines don't work well against coronavirus esp after 6 months. Pathetic how many US companies and mayors are now buying into wishful thinking with vaccine mandates. They don't work and only make things worse, even the CDC is now saying vaccinated Americans would need boosters.
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...ts-co-workers/

So you see folks, what many of us have been trying to warn you all about FOR A LONG TIME now is that you have been, and continue to be lied to, and much of what you have chosen to believe is EXACTLY OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH.

The Oxford University is not some right wing conspiracy peddling third rate institution. It’s one of the premier Universities in the world. The findings revealed in this study is not at all surprising, because what is being measured are not “whole viruses” but viral components or fragments (synthetic toxic spike proteins). And that stands to reason because the “vaccine” carries and introduces into your own body’s cells instructions (messenger RNA) to manufacture the spike protein. This, ladies and gentleman turns the “vaccinated” into literal viral production factories, which in turn makes the vaccinated person the threat to all those who come in close contact with them.

The psychopathic monsters behind this genocidal scheme have not only managed to convince you to accept the slow kill jab, but to also serve as walking, talking toxic poison delivery systems which spreads the poison wherever you go.

Of course, we must all now suffer from what was first born from deception and ignorance, but now continues through unimaginable levels of pure stupidity. What’s it gonna take for you people to open your eyes?

Those behind this “depopulation” scheme have revealed their plans in so many ways, from white papers, books, movies, even monolith monuments (Georgia Guide-stones) for Christ sake. And they do this for one specific reason .... they consider the masses unworthy of the resources they consume, which they have often referred to as “useless eaters”. They don’t consider you as intelligent like themselves, and therefore, their choice to eliminate you to preserve the earth’s precious resources for themselves and their prodigy, justified.

Many of you serve as poster children for their cause. STOP BEING THAT POSTER CHILD! WTFU
That study is comparing breakthrough Delta variant infections to those infected with the old strain of the virus. That's an apples to oranges comparison for the purpose of computing the benefit of being vaccinated
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:47 AM
 
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This is a fact-free statement.

1. If you've had Covid, you have lifetime immunity against that variant (getting the jab after is a waste of time).
2. Delta is different and you will get it whether you're jabbed or unjabbed (recovered or not).
3. CDC breakthrough count is dishonest and they are lying to you. Breakthrough cases were spiking in April so they decided to stop counting them unless it leads to hospitalization. If you believe stats out of the CDC knowing this, then you're willing ignorant.
How can you possibly know this?
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Old 08-26-2021, 10:48 AM
 
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This isn't about giving people the feels. It's about whether they are safer. Since a roomful of vaccinated people--some of whom might be symptomatic---can spread the virus, she isn't necessarily safer. It isn't worth disenfranchising a large portion of the city, including POC and those with medical contraindications to the vaccine, to assuage anxiety. They also need to show ID along with the passports, and the NYC ID requirements are not attainable by many undocumented immigrants because they require 4 points of documents.


Many business owners in NYC say the mandates will destroy them. Our business is part of a large coalition of NY metro fitness professionals who are against the passports. I'm not surprised the news media chose to focus on a business in favor of this. Throughout this pandemic, the news media has advocated for lockdowns and other measures that favor the professional, white elites and harm small businesses, the vulnerable and disenfranchised.
That is so true, and not to mention even doctors and scientists are saying the vaccine mandates in the USA make no sense for Americans with natural immunity and previous infection. In fact in Europe, the health passes they have consider not just vaccination but also natural immunity from previous infection, that's in fact considered superior immunity protection because it is. (And Europe isn't doing formal vaccine passports like America anyway, the health passes consider a lot of things like overall health and testing too and again, esp. immunity from previous protection). Same with Asian countries--if you've had COVID before esp. recently, you're immune and you can show you have the antibodies. Brazil and the Palestinian region now have among the lowest COVID rates in the world, and much lower hospitalization than countries like Israel or Iceland with very high vaccination rates. Probably because, of natural immunity there.

The fact that so many corrupt businesses and mayors in the US are trying to force vaccine mandates even on Americans with natural immunity, which other countries aren't doing, shows the vaccine requirements in the USA aren't about public health at all. It's all about control and Big Pharma profits, that's who really owns the USA and they've destroyed the United States as a beacon of liberty.
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Old 08-26-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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Who do you think wants the virus gone the LEAST? (select one)

VACCINATED PEOPLE

UNVACCINATED PEOPLE

VACCINE MANUFACTURERS
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Homeless?
Make you wonder how long it will be before we see cop squads rounding people up for quarantine.
We are going to become Australia.
Might end up with landlords refusing to rent to the unvaccinated.
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