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Old 08-24-2021, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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A friend of mine is just recently recovering from Covid. She wasn’t vaccinated.

She said when she went to the urgent care, the nurses and doctor there told her the increase in cases is due to the vaccinated people spreading it…that they aren’t aware they even have it and that’s why it’s exploding now.

Makes sense to me especially considering the cases were so low last summer with no vaccine.
I would suggest this anecdotal story is just that - a single piece of evidence.

You should ask "How did the nurses and doctor know that it was vaccinated people? Have they been testing a lot of close contacts to the unvaccinated but infected, and found those contacts were vaccinated but also infected?"
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:32 AM
 
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Disagree. My doctor said half his vaccinated patients are hospitalized.
one of 2 people in this newly-released story supportive of the narrative you started are lying.

Because we DO have stats on vaccinated vs unvaccinated hospitalizations.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:44 AM
 
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Or maybe not?
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In another dispiriting setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not get the shots.
did you read the CDC report that the AP News journalist summarized in this fashion?
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:53 AM
 
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from Aug 10th

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-vaccines.html

Now, I would say the %'s are misleading because they compare to the vaccinated to the entire #'s since March 2020. However, one should be able to use this figure and your own state's figures since say July 1 (go further back if you choose, to when vaccines began) to see just what's going on.

For example, in my state:

~8,000 total hospitalizations just since July 23. Total vaxxed hospitalizations 321. That would be 4%.
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Old 08-24-2021, 09:58 AM
 
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Disagree. My doctor said half his vaccinated patients are hospitalized.
Do you have any idea what you just claimed?
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Old 08-24-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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"FEMA will work with the CDC and other federal agencies to coordinate with state, tribal, and territorial authorities, private sector partners and others to assist with the vaccine distribution."
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/coronavirus

Also South Korea is mandating you show a QR code from your smartphone to enter a club or bar. For contact tracing. Only a matter of time before QR code on your skin?
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Old 08-24-2021, 10:42 AM
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Equal, not higher or lower.
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Now tell us how often vaccinated people get infected versus unvaccinated people.
I don't know of a central location for that information.


Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others

"The outbreak in Provincetown — a seaside tourist spot on Cape Cod in the county with Massachusetts’ highest vaccination rate — has so far included more than 900 cases. About three-quarters of them were people who were fully vaccinated.

Travis Dagenais, who was among the many vaccinated people infected, said “throwing caution to the wind” and partying in crowds for long nights over the July Fourth holiday was a mistake in hindsight."


If a person has been vaccinated they are still dangerous? And should continue the same behavior as if they hadn't taken the shot.
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Old 08-24-2021, 01:43 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Wow lots of denial in here. Stay in your little misinformed bubble.
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Old 08-24-2021, 01:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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If you heard it from a friend, she was lying to you. It never happened. It is just another in the long line of misinformation attempts circulating online.
Why would she lie? She just recovered from Covid and has nothing to gain from it
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Old 08-24-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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What's out there seems to be more than a variant because it 'varies' enough to be something completely different.
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