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Old 08-28-2021, 12:51 PM
 
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I don't think it was a hate crime because the first person he shot at was black. I do think it is more likely that he did it because he was on mind altering drugs.


They have this attempted murder on video too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lling-man.html
If this is true, and if this can be confirmed, than this thread was taken down some dark rabbit hole. It's mentally and emotionally draining to have to think about race.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:52 PM
 
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Are concealed carry permits allowed in FL? A good guy with a gun could have shot the killer before or after the first shot, when the victim might have been saved, instead of getting pumped with multiple bullets.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:53 PM
 
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That's interesting considering the latest demands for segregation come from the left-wing intelligentsia/academia ("Black only" dorms, student clubs and organizations, graduations, etc.)
Well I'm not asking for any of that. Anyway, what does any of this have to do with ME and the things that are of concern to me? You still haven't answered any of the questions that I asked. Evasion.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:55 PM
 
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Yes it does matter. Flying on a plane is a choice. Being Black and male is not a choice.
Ah, but being out in public where others judge you for being a Black male (member of a highly disproportionately violent crime-committing group) is a choice, as well. Simply make the choice to not go anywhere and you won't receive that kind of treatment. Same as choosing to not fly to avoid TSA scrutiny that assumes everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:56 PM
 
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Are concealed carry permits allowed in FL? A good guy with a gun could have shot the killer before or after the first shot, when the victim might have been saved, instead of getting pumped with multiple bullets.
Every law-abiding citizen should be able to get a CCW. Maybe violent criminals might think twice before pushing their luck. No, I'm not one of those persons who thinks "an armed society is a polite society". I just think most violent criminals don't understand anything but violence I need to be afraid. Violent criminals are predators and need to be treated like such.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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Ah, but being out in public where others judge you for being a Black male (member of a highly disproportionately violent crime-committing group) is a choice, as well. Simply make the choice to not go anywhere and you won't receive that kind of treatment. Same as choosing to not fly to avoid TSA scrutiny that assumes everyone is guilty until proven innocent.
We live in a society where you have to work in order to survive. That requires, for most jobs, going out into public. Alot of things I don't have a choice for. I know what you're trying to do. You're not changing my mind. I'm not going to tolerate being judged for things that I have no say in.

Again, answer my questions:

Why should I be willing to put up with any of that?

What is in it for me?
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Old 08-28-2021, 01:00 PM
 
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The gunman will not be charged with murder, but will be jailed for not wearing a mask and being unvaxed.

Oh, wait, this is Florida not Portland. Death penalty!
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Old 08-28-2021, 01:02 PM
 
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The gunman will not be charged with murder, but will be jailed for not wearing a mask and being unvaxed.

Oh, wait, this is Florida not Portland. Death penalty!
The irony is that Miami, and Florida as a whole, has a higher murder rate than Oregon or Portland. Sounds like many murderers in Florida aren't deterred by the death penalty. I'm not saying the killer doesn't deserve it. I'm not saying justice won't be served. I'm talking about PREVENTION. Criminals need to be scared of society, not the other way around.
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Old 08-28-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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I lived in a majority Hispanic neighborhood and there was no crime on the level of black neighborhoods. So there are non-white areas out there that don’t look like Southside Chicago.

This is all the fault of Democrats. You have a demographic brainwashed to believing we’re permanent helpless victims with unlimited access to guns so now every inner city rivals Afghanistan.

The only solution at this point is stop and frisk.
2nd reply. You were responding to someone who was responding to a comment that basically said "the segregationists were right".

You are Black. Answer this. Would you be willing to bring segregation back, even if it comes at YOUR EXPENSE? I know I'm not. I'm going to be against bringing back segregation because it will come at my expense. Answer this. Are you willing to bring back something that will ultimately hurt you? Yes or No?
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Old 08-28-2021, 01:09 PM
 
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republicans for years and years refer to democrats as evil demonic and stupid...i suppose its only natural to echo back these sentiments...


i believe the powers in charge benefit from all this petty bickering and try to refrain from emotionally charged outbursts
How did you turn this into a political issue.
If anything, the shooter was likely a (D), but even so I wouldn't blame all (D's) for the action of one cold blooded killer.


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