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Old 08-27-2021, 06:51 AM
 
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Trump Admin negotiated troop withdrawal with the Taliban in 2019-20.

Troops were reduced to 2500 and the US facilitated the release of 5000 Taliban fighters from Afghan prisons in 2020 per a February, 2020 agreement with the Taliban.

Biden inherited a no- win situation.

He could have torn up the agreement with the Taliban and like Trump, Obama and Bush before him, ordered more troops back in and stuck around another 20 years.

Instead, hell froze over and there appears to have been a consensus between Trump and Biden to get the hell out.

As it relates to today’s bombing, ISIS has claimed responsibility, never mind Trump took credit for destroying the caliphate and thus ISIS in 2019. Guess he did not realize it was a game of whack-a- mole.
"Instead, hell froze over and there appears to have been a consensus between Trump and Biden to get the hell out."

As USUAL, you are missing the point.

It is NOT that we are withdrawing. It is HOW are withdrawing.

If you DON'T know the difference, there is no use trying to have an intelligent discussion with you.
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Old 08-27-2021, 06:53 AM
 
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Trump campaigned in 2016 on the promise to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan.

We know with certainty the Trump Admin had begun negotiations with the Taliban in 2019 and a secret pow wow with the Taliban had been scheduled for Camp David on 9/11/2019. Taliban shot some people and the meeting got cancelled. Trump tweeted about it.

That the meeting was cancelled did not however mean negotiations with the Taliban did not continue. On 2/29/2020, Pompeo and the Taliban leader met in Qatar to sign and agreement to withdraw troops.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/upl...eclaration.pdf

And by golly, all but 2500 troops had been withdrawn by 2020 year end. And as agreed, the US facilitated the release of 5000 Taliban fighters from Afghan prisons. What could go wrong?

Some might be prone to believe Trump’s final draw down of troops ( post the election) may have been intentional to create a no - win situation for Biden. Considering how off the rails butt sore Trump was and remains, I guess it’s a possibility.
"I guess it’s a possibility", but NOT probable!
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:42 PM
 
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Calling for the military to step in and run the country because an incompetent president is incapable of logical thinking and actions, is not treason.
Calling to replace our democratically-elected government with a military dictatorship is absolutely treason. Luckily, our armed forces pledge to uphold the Constitution.
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:50 PM
 
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Calling to replace our democratically-elected government with a military dictatorship is absolutely treason. Luckily, our armed forces pledge to uphold the Constitution.
Our top brass military are all politized woke minions. The rank and file talk about how they are good for nothing. Top brass military are corrupt. Yes, it’s that bad. They no longer work to honor their oath. To the detriment of this nation.
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Old 08-27-2021, 07:55 PM
 
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" Biden should be brought before a military tribunal"

I don't think that is legal or possible. Our president is NOT in the military.

Now, if you want to talk about impeachment!!!
You're right - there is no way a President gets brought before a military tribunal. Our civilian government rules the military, not the other way around.

Second - impeachment. Republicans can try, but the grounds for impeachment are "high crimes and misdemeanors". Incompetence is not a grounds for impeachment. Which is probably a good thing, or every President in history would have been impeached at some point.

No, the only way to remove a president that you consider incompetent is through the electoral process. Which means you're stuck with him for another 3 1/3 years.
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Old 08-27-2021, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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A British military officer I heard interviewed agrees with you, but the punishment open to a President in office is impeachment and removal, not a military tribunal.
As the highest ranking official in the military, Biden is in fact eligible to be court martialed.
As president, the three options are resignation, impeachment, or the 25th amendment.
As commander in chief of the military, he is an officer of the military, and can face a military court martial.
Were he to take any of the three presidential options, he could still face a military tribunal, because he was the ranking officer of the military at the time of the insurrection.
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Old 08-27-2021, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The message is short, as commander of all the military, Biden should be brought before a military tribunal, and tried for dereliction of duty,
He failed to properly execute his sworn duty as commander in chief of the military, by not taking the advice of his military leaders with regard to a pullout of troops.
He put thousands of people at risk by his actions, left behind billions of dollars in military equipment, that is now in enemy hands.

Worst of all 13 brave Marines lost their lives today because of Biden's policy of removing the military before getting Americans, and Afgans out first.
Impeachment is not enough, he needs to be brought in front of a military court for his actions.
I would like nothing finer that to see him court marshaled, and sentenced to death.
He not only put Afgans, and some Americans in jeopardy, but also we in this country.
This man should pay the price for his stupidity.
We could have used a man like you when Trump abandoned Syria and gave the military bases to the Russians.

Spare us the crocodile tears and mock outrage.
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Old 08-28-2021, 06:23 AM
 
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You're right - there is no way a President gets brought before a military tribunal. Our civilian government rules the military, not the other way around.

Second - impeachment. Republicans can try, but the grounds for impeachment are "high crimes and misdemeanors". Incompetence is not a grounds for impeachment. Which is probably a good thing, or every President in history would have been impeached at some point.

No, the only way to remove a president that you consider incompetent is through the electoral process. Which means you're stuck with him for another 3 1/3 years.
"Incompetence is not a grounds for impeachment"

Where does it say that ANYWHERE?

The dems impeached Trump because they INTERPRETED what he said on the phone the WAY they wanted to. Even after the man on the other phone does NOT agree with their "interpretation.

"Alexander Hamilton explained in The Federalist Papers (No. 65) that impeachment of the president should take place for "offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to society itself."

And, in The Federalist Papers (No. 70), Hamilton further explained: "Men in public trust will much oftener act in such a manner as to render them unworthy of being any longer trusted, than in such a manner as to make them obnoxious (subject) to legal punishment."

https://www.jpands.org/hacienda/edcor4.html

"Alexander Hamilton
The subjects of its (impeachment) jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. [this quote is datedFriday, March 7, 1788.]

https://look.substack.com/p/impeach-...-mischief-will
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Old 08-28-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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No one wants to see the nation fall, I always hope with each President, they will put partisan aside and do what’s best for all Americans. Biden hasn’t done anything competent since he’s been in office. It’s been nothing but failed border control, making us dependent on foreign oil, higher prices and now this.

None of us wanted this, personally I’m angry
, I know young men who fought there, a good friend served two terms there, lost friends and had a couple who lost limbs over there. They promised to protect interpreters and others who worked with them. My friend is very angry at how blundered this was.
Ya…. Well at least they didn’t spray them with a deadly Herbicide which is killing those of us who are left….a nice slow death……..
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