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Old 08-28-2021, 10:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
I don't get a flu shot and I've never been called an anti-vaxxer.
That used to be someone who is against all vaccines.
There are definitely are some people who would call you an anti vaxxer for declining just the flu vaccine. It’s all or nothing for some people.

I would consider an anti vaxxer be someone who is against all vaccines.

I would consider someone who is against mandates or does not take every single recommended vaccine to be pro choice.
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Old 08-28-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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IDK about that, I know a RN that successfully got a religious exemption at the hospital she works at, and this only pertains to the Covid vaccine, she was going to loose her job, but the hospital granted her the exemption! I was surprised at that.


She thinks the vaccine contain 'abortion material'...however when I have asked a few doctors about this, they told me only the Phfizer vaccine uses technology derived from abortions.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coro...-20210305.html

Seems it isn't just the Pfizer shots........and it is from cells taken in the 70's and 80's. and it's not just vaccines that use those cells. And in fact the Catholic Church supported Moderna/Pfizer first -- and only get the J & J if you can't get one of those.

The 'aborted' fetuses are sometimes fetuses that are aborted for medical reasons...but we don't know right?
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Old 08-28-2021, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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"Vaccination casualties" are rare, but they do happpen -- my extended family has one. We aren't always sure of the factors, which appear to be largely genetic/hereditary, so the hardest cases tend to be few and far between.

The mass media, printed or electronic, with their focus on the immediate and the superficial, tend to ignore this -- until one of their own "picks the black marble".

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...uggesting.html

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Old 08-28-2021, 10:35 AM
 
Location: The Tar heel State
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Anti-vaccine is someone who refuses ALL vaccines.
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Old 08-28-2021, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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If you are against getting the flu shot -- you are anti-vaxxer.
If you don't get the flu shot just because you don't get it -- are you anti-flu shot or just not getting the flu shot.

I've not gotten the flu shot -- but I wasn't against getting it -- I just didn't get it.
I'm not against the Covid 'vaccine' - I don't care if others get it. I'm just not getting it.
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Old 08-28-2021, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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This is still largely one big experiment so it's going to take more time and data to convince everyone these mRNA vaccines are safe and effective. Even I'm not totally convinced even though I'm vaccinated....I'm around 2/3 convinced. It will take time to see if any side effects show up, to see who ends up hospitalized in the next few months, how many die, and if the vaccines wear off and how fast. Also, how many new variants pop up and how vaccine resistant they are.

When covid starts to affect people more personally that's when they may change their mind. Until then time passes and the experiment continues.

Maybe Trump should have given $150billion to a company producing an old fashioned inactivated virus vaccine, but given covid often presents similar symptoms there would probably be the same reactions.
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Old 08-28-2021, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Technically no, this does not make you an anti vaxxer. It just makes you needlessly more at risk of contracting a case of COVID with greater consequences.
Who are you you to determine what anyone other than you needs?

I'm dead serious. No snark. Think about what that means about how you perceive your relationships with others, at a fundamental level.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:05 PM
 
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What makes someone an "anti-vaxxer" ?

If someone is against mandates and thinks everyone should be able to make their own decisions about getting vaccinated or not, does that make them an anti-vaxxer?

What if they believe that and are vaccinated themselves?



C'mon "Pro-vaxxers" ........

You love to throw the name around at anyone that you disagree with....

So give us your definition.

I can't define an anti vaxxer but I can define a pro vaxxer. A pro vaxxer is someone who has been lucky enough to have received both shots with no serious side effects and this has made them cavalier at the moment. But that could change with a booster shot and a 3rd booster and a 10th booster and a 50th booster.



We just don't know what will happen.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:29 PM
 
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An "anti-vaxxer" is just the new label du jour for anyone who goes against the agenda of the corrupt in power: (The corrupt puppets who sold out the country. Those who want to further a communist/socialist agenda, etc.)

Kind of like how those who supported Trump are trumpers, cultists, those who fight for their freedom and liberty are racists, misogynists, nazis, puppy and kitten haters, etc. etc.

When you can't win an argument, or you are too lazy to think for yourself, you just stick a derogatory label on the opposite side and call it a day. I guess that way you can still think you are winning your little facebook and twitter wars.

There is nothing new under the sun.
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Old 08-28-2021, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I am a pro-vaxxer --- and I don't see why you would be offended by being called an anti-vaxxer if you are against/anti -- getting the vaccine.

I support your right to choose.....and will call you an anti-vaxxer -- so what.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer though.

I've been fully vaccinated since April, because I weighed the pros and the cons for myself and made the decision that was right for me personally.

But I would never try to force, or pressure someone else to get the vaccine if they don't want to.

Neither would I deride them or call them names.
I think people that do that type of thing are medical authoritarians.

Or, douchebags in simpler terms.
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