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Old 09-02-2021, 02:10 PM
 
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Same flawed one sided view as those that claim that those who are against gun control/ban are also not valuing life.

Discussions along these lines do nothing to add but to demonize the other side.
People think they need guns to protect from a tyrannical government. The situation in Australia is proof that we were right.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:10 PM
 
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Don't seem to care about 13 servicemen/women killed in Afghanistan or the other people killed by that bomb.

Don't care about babies being aborted.

Don't care about hundreds of blacks in inner cities murdered every day.


Serious question. Do liberals value human life at all?
Libs are totalitarians. Once you understand those basic beliefs, the actions of liberals are easier to understand.

Liberals do not believe in the rule of law, The Constitution, or individual liberties. Additionally, the believe that "the means justifies the ends". Their "ends" is a marxist political system. Like Mao, Lenin, Stalin, and Pol Pot, killing several million people here and there is the price you have to pay for a communist utopia.

Liberals do not share the same values of most people who embrace western ideas of freedom, equality under law, and the spirit of the individual. In that way, they are like having an enemy within.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:11 PM
 
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Just part of the culture. You will find the same thing in Africa countries that where always ruled by blacks.
It’s not culture. It’s education levels, success in the economic system, access to resources.

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People think they need guns to protect from a tyrannical government. The situation in Australia is proof that we were right.
What would guns change in Australia?

Oh! That’s right! Nothing!

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Libs are totalitarians. Once you understand those basic beliefs, the actions of liberals are easier to understand.

Liberals do not believe in the rule of law, The Constitution, or individual liberties. Additionally, the believe that "the means justifies the ends". Their "ends" is a marxist political system. Like Mao, Lenin, Stalin, and Pol Pot, killing several million people here and there is the price you have to pay for a communist utopia.

Liberals do not share the same values of most people who embrace western ideas of freedom, equality under law, and the spirit of the individual. In that way, they are like having an enemy within.
And… what… you support the constitution? So you’ll admit Biden is the rightly elected president of the US?
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I do! I do! Prosecute criminals again. Done. Easy.
Lol, you know neither the history of crime nor the history of prosecution. Crime plummeted in the 90s 18-20 years after Roe v. Wade and the removal of lead from gasoline. It's been at a low plateau since, although our gang activity is notably more violent than it is in any other Western nation.

Also, you seem to lack basic knowledge of human psychology if you think deterrence works well for literally anything. The only reason there's enough money in the illicit drug trade to make a living is because it's prosecuted so harshly. The world isn't your 20th Century suburban household where you're the head housewife and can judge people into submisison.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:18 PM
 
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An addition would be; our prison system graduates more hardened criminals than it takes in.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Do conservatives value human life?

Don't care about immigrants.

Don't care about women and babies that need financial support.

Don't care about those suffering from war, poverty, and illness around the world.

Don't care about the homeless.

Don't care about the mentally ill, disadvantaged, orphans, I could go on...

Do you just want to boost your post count with these ridiculous threads??

Liberals actually believe things that are not true, they bask in ignorance
which fuels their hate as they spread fear with nonsensical statements such as 'don't care about........"

Who supports open borders, which finance drug cartels, human trafficking,slavery, violence, gangs and now covid and terrorists? They tolerate widespread reports of rape of women and children if just one 'three yer old brown child' is mixed in with the criminals, terrorists and drugs.

Who supports ineffective gun control measures which hamstrings legal gun owners while doing nothing about the innocent lives lost in democrat run cities.

The democrats goal is to eliminate private gun ownership while tolerating the massive loss of human life to gang violence. they always replace reality with unattainable academic theory, in this case they believe, 'no gun, no gun violence'. While they chase this unicorn, bodies pile up in dem run cities and states.

Democrats only solution for problems is money and light rail. Never discussion or argument, always I&D, invalidate and destroy. Imagination and creativity are avoided at all costs. Meanwhile any money raised to mitigate an issue ends up consumed by fraud.

Biden creates a humanitarian crisis of historic proportion on the southern border while spreading covid/delta and in Afghanistan where he has provided AQ/Taliban/ISIS, 'the JV team, with an endless supply of American hostages, redeemable at the US state dept for cash and prizes.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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Lol, you know neither the history of crime nor the history of prosecution. Crime plummeted in the 90s 18-20 years after Roe v. Wade and the removal of lead from gasoline. It's been at a low plateau since, although our gang activity is notably more violent than it is in any other Western nation.

Also, you seem to lack basic knowledge of human psychology if you think deterrence works well for literally anything. The only reason there's enough money in the illicit drug trade to make a living is because it's prosecuted so harshly. The world isn't your 20th Century suburban household where you're the head housewife and can judge people into submisison.
Policy make a huge difference. For example, a big reason that there are only 30% of black kids coming from two parent homes is because the government incentivizes them NOT to marry by paying more benefits. I understand more about psychology than you think.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Just part of the culture. You will find the same thing in Africa countries that where always ruled by blacks.
Lolwut? Fatherless households have been observed everywhere all throughout history. Also, can you find a country in Africa that was "always ruled by blacks"? I'll give you a hint: Every country in Africa is a nearly completely arbitrary set of borders set up by foreigners.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Policy make a huge difference. For example, a big reason that there are only 30% of black kids coming from two parent homes is because the government incentivizes them NOT to marry by paying more benefits. I understand more about psychology than you think.
You think marriage keeps men around?
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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Don't seem to care about 13 servicemen/women killed in Afghanistan or the other people killed by that bomb.

Don't care about babies being aborted.

Don't care about hundreds of blacks in inner cities murdered every day.


Serious question. Do liberals value human life at all?
Why would anyone of any political affiliation value human life just because it is human? The idea that human life is intrinsically valuable, just because it is human, is yet more religious nonsense.
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