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Old 09-02-2021, 07:05 PM
 
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This is probably why USPS deliveries are slow. Why should they work hard if they keep getting cheated out of pay?

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An investigation from a government watchdog has found that managers within the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) regularly cheat workers out of their pay and are rarely disciplined for their actions.

The federal government has cited the agency 1,150 times since 2005 for underpaying letter carriers and other employees, according to an investigation from the Center for Public Integrity (CPI).
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...workers-of-pay
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:16 PM
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Side note- you cant hardly get fired from post office. Some real good workers and some real slackers milking it with the unions help. All the underpaid have to do is file a greivence if they wish. Often its because people are in supervisor or higher positions that dont belong there, except 'union rules'
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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Side note- you cant hardly get fired from post office. Some real good workers and some real slackers milking it with the unions help. All the underpaid have to do is file a greivence if they wish. Often its because people are in supervisor or higher positions that dont belong there, except 'union rules'
The grievances don't help them get the pay they are owed though.
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Since 2005, the Postal Service has been cited by the federal government 1,150 times for underpaying letter carriers and other employees, including one case involving 164 violations, according to Labor Department records.

The federal agency determined that those workers lost about $659,000 in pay.

Yet it allowed the Postal Service to pay back not even half of that after negotiations with the agency.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/9/...l-carriers-pay
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:14 PM
 
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I always wonder why whenever I go to the post office, the workers look really suicidal. Is it really a miserable job?
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:31 PM
 
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I always wonder why whenever I go to the post office, the workers look really suicidal. Is it really a miserable job?
Government work can be soul sucking. They make hard working people work harder and harder to make up for the lazy sloths who refuse to work.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:35 PM
 
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Government work can be soul sucking. They make hard working people work harder and harder to make up for the lazy sloths who refuse to work.
Basically a prime example of why communism/socialism doesn't work. You run out of other people to dump your work on and there's no incentive to be efficient.
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Old 09-02-2021, 08:44 PM
 
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This is probably why USPS deliveries are slow. Why should they work hard if they keep getting cheated out of pay?
I heard that story, but even though we should all be indignant when bosses cheat workers, it's hard for me to feel sorry for postal workers when the USPS overall is so dysfunctional and evades responsibility for anything.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:48 PM
 
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I heard that story, but even though we should all be indignant when bosses cheat workers, it's hard for me to feel sorry for postal workers when the USPS overall is so dysfunctional and evades responsibility for anything.
I know, but there must be hard working dedicated people working there. I feel bad for them. It was like that at the decertified psych hospital where I used to work. Literally half the people who worked there deserved to be fired.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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I dont know about anyone else on here, but personally, with almost every job I have ever worked...I 'put out' the work for which Im being paid...in other words...if a job is paying me $8. per hour...I give them $8 an hour worth of work, if the job is paying me $25 per hour, I give them $25 an hour worth of work.


I know many other people do this same thing, because Ive worked with plenty of them.
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Old 09-02-2021, 10:08 PM
 
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So I just did the math based on this...
The federal government has cited the agency 1,150 times since 2005 for underpaying letter carriers and other employees, according to an investigation from the Center for Public Integrity (CPI).

According to the watchdog, the Labor Department found that those workers lost a combined $659,000 in pay, but only allowed the Postal Service to pay back less than half that amount.
$659,000
1150 instances
15 year time frame

That comes out to $573.04 per instance over a 15 year period.

Annually that's $38.20.

In the whole scheme of things, it's not terrible... but for the individuals who were slighted, definitely a big deal.
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