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I first heard my dad say that all 3 vaccines contained fetal stem cells from abortions...but when I asked 4 separate doctors and 3 pharmacists, they told me only the Phfizer vaccine used technology derived from abortion...
Fast forward to yesterday, I found out a friend of mine who is an RN at a large hospital was granted a 'religious exemption' so she does not have to get the vaccine in order to keep her job...
I cannot understand why the hospital would grant the religious exemption if the vaccines did not contain abortion material?
I first heard my dad say that all 3 vaccines contained fetal stem cells from abortions...but when I asked 4 separate doctors and 3 pharmacists, they told me only the Phfizer vaccine used technology derived from abortion...
Fast forward to yesterday, I found out a friend of mine who is an RN at a large hospital was granted a 'religious exemption' so she does not have to get the vaccine in order to keep her job...
I cannot understand why the hospital would grant the religious exemption if the vaccines did not contain abortion material?
https://www.liveaction.org/news/vacc...MaAiUGEALw_wcB
This confusion arises due to the fact that cells from aborted children have been used to grow vaccines. In the 1960s, two women chose abortion for their children, though not for the purpose of creating a vaccine. Two cell lines, WI-38 in 1961 and MRC-5 in 1965, were created from the remains of those children, and scientists used those cell lines to grow the viruses or bacteria necessary to develop certain vaccines (such as rubella [MMR vaccine], Hepatitis A, and varicella). The viruses are then removed from the cell lines before being placed into a vaccine, so the viruses are cultured — or grown — in cell lines from aborted children. Previously, scientists used animal cell lines, but human viruses don’t grow as well in animal cell lines.
Vaccines, if they contain any fetal cells at all, do not do so by design. Dr. Paul Offitt, director of Children’s Hospital of Pennsylvania’s (CHOP) Vaccine Education Center, told ABC News, “There are perhaps nanograms of DNA fragments still found in the vaccine, perhaps billionths of a gram. You would find as much if you analyzed the fruits and vegetables you eat.” Other researchers posit that these tiny fragments may do more damage than is currently thought, and conduct research in this area. However, there is, at this point, no definitive evidence.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells
When it comes to the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, fetal cell line HEK 293 was used during the research and development phase. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. Using fetal cell lines to test the effectiveness and safety of medications is common practice, because they provide a consistent and well-documented standard.
For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, fetal cell lines were used in the production and manufacturing stage. To make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, scientists infect PER.C6 fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus vector. (Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.) All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. This cell line is used because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines.
https://www.liveaction.org/news/vacc...MaAiUGEALw_wcB
This confusion arises due to the fact that cells from aborted children have been used to grow vaccines. In the 1960s, two women chose abortion for their children, though not for the purpose of creating a vaccine. Two cell lines, WI-38 in 1961 and MRC-5 in 1965, were created from the remains of those children, and scientists used those cell lines to grow the viruses or bacteria necessary to develop certain vaccines (such as rubella [MMR vaccine], Hepatitis A, and varicella). The viruses are then removed from the cell lines before being placed into a vaccine, so the viruses are cultured — or grown — in cell lines from aborted children. Previously, scientists used animal cell lines, but human viruses don’t grow as well in animal cell lines.
Vaccines, if they contain any fetal cells at all, do not do so by design. Dr. Paul Offitt, director of Children’s Hospital of Pennsylvania’s (CHOP) Vaccine Education Center, told ABC News, “There are perhaps nanograms of DNA fragments still found in the vaccine, perhaps billionths of a gram. You would find as much if you analyzed the fruits and vegetables you eat.” Other researchers posit that these tiny fragments may do more damage than is currently thought, and conduct research in this area. However, there is, at this point, no definitive evidence.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/yo...ed-fetal-cells
When it comes to the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, fetal cell line HEK 293 was used during the research and development phase. All HEK 293 cells are descended from tissue taken from a 1973 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. Using fetal cell lines to test the effectiveness and safety of medications is common practice, because they provide a consistent and well-documented standard.
For the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, fetal cell lines were used in the production and manufacturing stage. To make the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, scientists infect PER.C6 fetal cell lines to grow the adenovirus vector. (Learn more about how viral vector vaccines work.) All PER.C6 cells used to manufacture the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are descended from tissue taken from a 1985 abortion that took place in the Netherlands. This cell line is used because it is a well-studied industry standard for safe and reliable production of viral vector vaccines.
So, why did the hospital grant the exemption then? Seems flimsy to me. Maybe they just didnt want to loose her as a nurse?
So, why did the hospital grant the exemption then? Seems flimsy to me. Maybe they just didnt want to loose her as a nurse?
You'd have to ask them.
Many institutions/places are adopting policies formally but not enforcing them.
I don't know the lady's religion -- the Catholic church has said to go ahead and get the vaccine....but not sure some of the more right leaning churches in the USA have.
You know a post is junk when it contains words like child/baby/person to describe a fetus. Time for brunch, I am still torn between scrambled or sunny side up chickens
OP, with a quick online search - and as you should to expect - you will have two sets of opposing information.
One will tell you yes, there are fetal cells in those vaccines in question. VERY reputable people.
Others will tell you - there are no fetal cells in vaccines. VERY reputable people.
Purpose is - to leave you confused.
This will be followed by :
1. quoting #1 people
2. quoting #2 people, based on poster personal preference.
I first heard my dad say that all 3 vaccines contained fetal stem cells from abortions...but when I asked 4 separate doctors and 3 pharmacists, they told me only the Phfizer vaccine used technology derived from abortion...
Fast forward to yesterday, I found out a friend of mine who is an RN at a large hospital was granted a 'religious exemption' so she does not have to get the vaccine in order to keep her job...
I cannot understand why the hospital would grant the religious exemption if the vaccines did not contain abortion material?
Why must the two things be related? Do you think that all decisions made are made for a cohesive base? I don't know the details behind the hospital's decision, but I doubt that the use of stem cells (approved for use in at least ten different drugs around the globe) was the basis for their decision. More than likely the hospital is run by a religious group.
You know a post is junk when it contains words like child/baby/person to describe a fetus. Time for brunch, I am still torn between scrambled or sunny side up chickens
In the legal sense, a 'fetus' is a separate and real life...
In cases where a person murders a pregnant woman, TWO COUNTS of murder are imposed...In order to impose a murder count, it MUST be a real human life. Its that simple.
Ive seen a case where a drunk driver hit and killed a pregnant woman and he was charged with TWO counts.
A fetus cannot be a real life in one case and not in another, its either/or.
Okay I am a pentecostal and I also believe in the sanctity of life and yes in our faith and belief the shot is spiritual death so I can understand how the hospital would see that as a religious exemption . Unless your dr is a christian of course they are going to tell you that there is no component in the shot of any fetal /abortion what have you . My dr is a christian and he attends my church as well .Sorry but just my take and please dont attack me for what I believe .
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