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Hillarious how when the liberal academic elites love to utilize one-line statements without any statistics.
Where are the plenty of impoverished rural white area that has a high homicide rate year after year?
There are none. Sometimes a rural area will have a high rate for one year because of domestic violence incident but there are no impoverished rural white areas that have high homicide rates year after year.
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The one or two impoverished white areas that don't have low homicide rates are mainly African-American drug dealers
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But liberals cannot and will not acknowledge facts, as facts tend to contradict liberal ideology.
This is why libs must engage in revisionist history, as history would continually suggest that liberal ideology has failed wherever and whenever it has been implemented.
As history also suggests the Conservative 'less government, less government spending, less government interference in our lives' mantra is little more than hot air given they spend like drunken sailors, grow government, and interfere in peoples' lives (current day Texas being a perfect example) when it suits their agenda.
I think about the history of the OP, and then the history and some of what people hear are saying. Some people use threads like this as an opportunity to vent about how they see Black people as a problem. Among some people, I don't see a desire to solve any problems. I see some people who are here to complain about Black people. Whenever someone says "I won't take their problems serious because they kill each other", all I see is resentment and anger. I don't see much desire to solve any problems. On other threads, comments like "avoid young Black men" get thrown around. What do you expect me to get from that?
It my not be the right thing to say, but what do you expect ? I'm not sure where the individual that made that statement lives, but if their daily news report is of one shooting after another, specifically a certain demographic, like it is here in Detroit, why wouldn't they try to avoid them ?
I'll be honest, I cringe every time I have to go into Detroit. It's a violent area, that is fact, I tend to not like being in violent areas, so I avoid them as much as possible. Self preservation is human nature.
Statisticians refer to it as confounding variables. The OP's model uses two independent variables - population of a defined municipal area and the proportion of African American's among that population. The outcome variable of interest is number of homicides. Flimsy (even by high school standards) for an explanatory statistical model. I would hypothesize income, gun ownership, and incidence of drug usage (detailed by drug class) could explain more variation than either city size or racial composition.
Don't forget about the level of education.
I can assure you there is a large disparity of education between these two cities.
Life becomes far more complicated when you are barely literate.
Oh, I know - I was literally just trying to think of a simple counter-example to explore the logic in my own mind. The five-factor model makes some sense to me. It might require more that just 5, I would imagine, but that's a huge improvement over 1 (proportion African American).
I love America, but our history of mistreating black people is something that makes me sad and upset. As a society, we should be trying to lift up all of our citizens.
We do though. I'm 52, and lived in the metro Detroit area the majority of my life. All those years, I've heard nothing but help going to Detroit. Back packs for the kids , school supplies, food drives, etc. Corporations donating millions for school programs, career programs etc. And the last time I looked, Detroit public school system spends as much or more per student, then the most wealthy school district does , per student.
And nothing has changed. Same thing day after day, year after year, decade after decade...
Throwing money and help at these issues hasn't done a thing, the change has to come from within.
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Please elaborate on the root causes of poverty in the African American community. You attribute the higher than average poverty rates among blacks to high out-of-wedlock birth rate? No other causes you can think of? Are you sure high out-of-wedlock births aren't actually a result of something besides skin color?
Out-of-wedlock births aren't a "result of skin color." They're a result, in 99% of the instances, of having unprotected sex. The fact that the government rewards this behavior with a government support check is contributing to the problem.
And you're obviously hinting at something here, but I have no idea what it is. Surely you're not blaming white people for black people's high out-of-wedlock rate, are you?
It my not be the right thing to say, but what do you expect ? I'm not sure where the individual that made that statement lives, but if their daily news report is of one shooting after another, specifically a certain demographic, like it is here in Detroit, why wouldn't they try to avoid them ?
I'll be honest, I cringe every time I have to go into Detroit. It's a violent area, that is fact, I tend to not like being in violent areas, so I avoid them as much as possible. Self preservation is human nature.
What do I expect? For there to be less childishness than that. Why would I want to have a discussion with people who throw around statements like "if there were no Blacks, America would be safer" or "avoid young Black men"? Why would I want to have ANY discussion with people throwing around statements like that? And yes, as a Black man, I take those statements personally. I take things personally, it's the way I am.
I've never been to Detroit and I have no plans on going there myself.
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