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Old 09-08-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Anyone who has worked in, or even gone to the ER for treatment, knows that the vast majority of people who go there don't have a life or death emergency, regardless of the "purpose" of an ER. Also, you might try not projecting your reactions onto others. I'm not shocked by this, but you seem to be.
NOT these days! In many areas your local ER will either be about abandoned because of Covid worries and protocols, or inundated with active and worsening Covid patients.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:27 AM
 
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Going on a year and a half, no excuse. Plenty of money is being thrown around on non-stop mass testing of the healthy, asymptomatic and not at risk. How many billions spent on leaky, ineffective
vaxx'es?
Its quite the indictment of our govt run health care system.
Trump's CARES really helped. Future Pandemic planning will have to be directed at forming better solutions for this. We might need a national medical reservist program.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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Every hospital should be doing this, and many will probably will be forced to soon. Unvaxxed get triaged to the back of the line. And they shouldn't complain because they CHOSE to take that risk, often very vocally.

Leave the limited medical care and services to those who took responsibility for themselves and society around them. The unvaxxed can take what, if anything, is left.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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Every hospital should be doing this, and many will probably will be forced to soon. Unvaxxed get triaged to the back of the line. And they shouldn't complain because they CHOSE to take that risk, often very vocally.

Leave the limited medical care and services to those who took responsibility for themselves and society around them. The unvaxxed can take what, if anything, is left.
Very unlikely. Patients are generally triaged based on severity. In War or mass casualties, then there could be those most serious and unrecoverable simply made comfortable. We saw that in NOLA with Katrina back in 2005.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:47 AM
 
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Monoclonal antibodies are far less effective than vaccination. And it strikes me as truly nuts that someone who eschewed the vaccine over supposed concerns about its safety and efficacy would gladly submit to monoclonal antibody treatment. It must not have the political burden of vaccination.
Read that a couple Republican politicians own stock in the company producing monoclonal antibodies.

So, no political burden at all.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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Very unlikely. Patients are generally triaged based on severity. In War or mass casualties, then there could be those most serious and unrecoverable simply made comfortable. We saw that in NOLA with Katrina back in 2005.
Mass casualties is exactly what some of these hospitals are dealing with right now. Triage is treating the patients most likely to survive first. Unvaxxed COVID patients who end up in the ICU on vents have a low chance of survival. True triage would be putting those patients last. As they should be.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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One of our kids who works in an Urgent Care in the midwest tells us that they are inundated these days with people with chest pains, signs of strokes, and large wounds because people are afraid they won't be able to get treatment in the ER.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:49 AM
 
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Trump's CARES really helped. Future Pandemic planning will have to be directed at forming better solutions for this. We might need a national medical reservist program.
Sure throw gas on the fire
Disband the cdc, fda, i.e. get govt entirely out of health care. Only then can the system recover
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:52 AM
 
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Mass casualties is exactly what some of these hospitals are dealing with right now. Triage is treating the patients most likely to survive first. Unvaxxed COVID patients who end up in the ICU on vents have a low chance of survival. True triage would be putting those patients last. As they should be.


Basic triage moves those least likely to benefit from medical treatment to the back of the line.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:53 AM
 
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Sure throw gas on the fire
Disband the cdc, fda, i.e. get govt entirely out of health care. Only then can the system recover
Sounds like a great idea!

In fact, why don't we get rid of hospitals, doctors, nurses, and pharmacists as well.

People can look up their symptoms online, find their diagnosis, then go to the feed store and get their medications.
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