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The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joe Biden, D-Delaware, called President Bush’s comments accusing Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats of wanting to appease terrorists "bulls**t” and said if the president disagrees so strongly with the idea of talking to Iran then he needs to fire his secretaries of State and Defense, both of whom Biden said have pushed to sit down with the Iranians.
The TRUTH is Bush has negotiated with the sponsors of terror in Libya and the Saudis so he's nothing but a whining little hypocrite making the statement he did.
Joe Biden should be commended for recognizing BS when he smells it and Bush's speech reeked of it.
I guess the truth hurts. Bush wouldn't have to explain Carter's rogue actions if he would quit meeting with terrorist groups when told not to.
Try getting on topic, the thread is about Biden calling Bush's whining about negotiating with terrorists and radicals BS, EXACTLY what Bush does with Saudi Arabia and Libya. Right on the money Joe!
And I still think you're way off base trying to compare the current middle east situation with Hitler in the '30s. I believe Hitler's animosity towards the Jews was due more to finances than religion such as the usurers in Germany after WW I. The middle east is mainly the "My God is better than your God" BS.
As far as I'm concerned, if people want to kill each other for that argument, sell them whatever weapons they can pay for up front and let them have at it. The world will be a better place when that argument is put to rest.
I was on topic until you claimed that there is no comparison to the Middle East today with Europe in the 30's. Regardless of what you think the reasons for Hitler's animosity towards the Jews was it doesn't change the fact that he was hell bent on completely eradicating an entire religion from the whole continent - and then the world - and received fanatical support from his followers in many different countries. Just as many Muslim leaders are hell bent on doing the same thing and are receiving fanatical support from their followers in many different countries.
Do you think that it is useful, prudent, or moral, based on history, to negotiate with no preconditions with fanatics who have made it their stated goal to eradicate an entire population from the face of the earth? Because if you do then I also would have to assume that you would have thought it useful, prudent, and moral to negotiate with the Nazis when they were rolling over an entire continent and implementing their 'Final Solution' to the 'Jewish problem'.
I am not Jewish but I join them when they stand up and say NEVER AGAIN.
lol...I think a lot of dems hand their panties in a twist today. I guess it hit too close to the truth for some.
Hmmm. I stopped off on the Hill on the way in to work today, and had drinks downtown with a couple of political types after. Talk was not over Bush and BS, but almost entirely about how shell-shocked the Republicans are after the Mississippi special election loss. No one can recall anything worse since Watergate. As of today at least, the party is all but coming apart at the seams, and there does not appear to be anyone out there who can step in to turn the tide...
Hmmm. I stopped off on the Hill on the way in to work today, and had drinks downtown with a couple of political types after. Talk was not over Bush and BS, but almost entirely about how shell-shocked the Republicans are after the Mississippi special election loss. No one can recall anything worse since Watergate. As of today at least, the party is all but coming apart at the seams, and there does not appear to be anyone out there who can step in to turn the tide...
That is silly and has nothing to do with this subject. These things run in cycles and will cycles back around once again.
That is silly and has nothing to do with this subject. These things run in cycles and will cycles back around once again.
Cycles? So, you're saying that we should start looking for Cheney to go back out on the Senate floor and tell some senior lawmaker to go F himself? Meanwhile, I'm sort of thinking back to how long it took things to "cycle back" after Hoover...
Cycles? So, you're saying that we should start looking for Cheney to go back out on the Senate floor and tell some senior lawmaker to go F himself? Meanwhile, I'm sort of thinking back to how long it took things to "cycle back" after Hoover...
It took Hitler and Tojo to fix the damage caused by the New Deal. However, I'm unsure as to what fixed Hoover's interventionist tendencies.
Biden is a pretty knowledgeable guy. He shoots his mouth off sometimes, but you could stuff several Bushes into the Middle Eastern Box of Comprehension that Joe Biden has.
It took Hitler and Tojo to fix the damage caused by the New Deal.
The idea has been examined and essentially reduced to status as an amusing but inconsequential theory...
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