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Old 05-15-2008, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Joe Biden, D-Delaware, called President Bush’s comments accusing Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats of wanting to appease terrorists "bulls**t” and said if the president disagrees so strongly with the idea of talking to Iran then he needs to fire his secretaries of State and Defense, both of whom Biden said have pushed to sit down with the Iranians.

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:16 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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BRAVO! Well Said, Joe!
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Well, inasmuch as Bush did not accuse Obama of any such thing, seems like Biden has his thong panties pulled way too tight
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:28 PM
 
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I've met and like Biden and think that part of the reason he doesn't have wider appeal is that he responds this way.

On a side note, if McCain had responded this way, CNN would have called it a tantrum.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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Well, inasmuch as Bush did not accuse Obama of any such thing, seems like Biden has his thong panties pulled way too tight
I hear Joe's into things like that. Oh well, he's certainly a "progressive" politician.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I really like Biden - but I think he got this one wrong. This is the part of the speech that Biden, along woth Pelosi thought was referring to Obama and Iran:

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: "Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided." We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history. (Applause.) "

When I heard it, I took it as a swipe at Jimmy Carter and his meetings with Hamas.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Nice to see a politician who isn't so PC that he can't call what it is.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I really like Biden - but I think he got this one wrong. . . . .

When I heard it, I took it as a swipe at Jimmy Carter and his meetings with Hamas.
Biden and Pelosi. Both hanging on every word uttered by Hamas leader Khaled Meshal while calling Bush's words BS.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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When I heard it, I took it as a swipe at Jimmy Carter and his meetings with Hamas.


Like it or not HAMAS exists and wields some power in the region. I took it as just another example of Bush's arrogance and black & white, tunnel-visioned view of the world.

I guess the only terrorists he believes in negotiating with are his Saudi Arabian comrades.
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Old 05-15-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Like it or not HAMAS exists and wields some power in the region.
So what? Hitler and the Nazis existed and wielded power in their region of the world also. Doesn't mean that he deserved to be legitmized by engaging with him diplomatically after numerous past attempts over many years had proven useless.
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