If you are vaxxed and I am not, please explain why that's a risk to you. (doctor, medical)

[fishbrains]

Originally Posted by Rocko20

Because the vaccine doesn’t work.

You really think a vaccine developed in 10 months was going to be a miracle drug?

If this wasn’t a 98% survival rate virus, the vaccine would’ve been considered a complete failure. Instead it’s just a glorified booster shot.

Real world evidence based upon actual results proves you wrong.

[JohnBoy64]

Originally Posted by Dustyroad70

This is a joke about hospitals being overrun. They are being overrun on purpose. They get paid much more for a covid patient so, they are the priority to be hospitalized and they are are more likely to be called covid as we have seen when and if they die. Then they cynically go in front of the cameras with sob stories. I know that nurses are overwhelmed due to staffing shortages, mostly caused by moneysaving measures by administrators.

Any sources to back that up?

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

The hospitalization argument could also apply to vaccinated and unvaccinated people who are obese as well since that is the group most often hospitalized for Covid.

75% of Americans are overweight and 42.4% of Americans are obese , one of many risk factors for sever Covid. Other risk factors include but not limited, Diabetes, Cancer, heart disease, asthma, kidney disease and Downs Syndrome.

Strikes me as a tad foolish for anyone with one or more risk factors ( subject to MD approval, when warranted) to forego a vaccine.

[leastprime]

Originally Posted by Grlzrl

If you are vaxxed and I am not, please explain how that's a threat to you.

Because the unvax'd become the better target reservoir for new variants.
However, the unvax'd can become the experimental pool for treatments.
As some one semi famous said, "I don't care"

[springfieldva]

Originally Posted by JohnBoy64

I'm not buying into that

Most nurses are vaccinated – so why do people think health workers are vaccine hesitant?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ccine-hesitant

One nurse in the state of Maryland is hardly compelling evidence.

There have been plenty of hospital workers protesting vaccine mandates, too.

Being against mandates is not the same thing as being against vaccination, btw. One can advise patients and employees to get vaccinated without using mandates to force them to vaccinate against their will.

[k350]

Originally Posted by mlb

Stay away from my vulnerable family members. Or anyone immunocompromised.

OR ANY child.

https://news.yahoo.com/child-deaths-...171214330.html

Vaccinated are spreaders as well, lol.

So what you should do is you take some personal responsibility, and you keep your family members away from everyone.

[303Guy]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaTransplant

Read my statement again. Vaccinated people are less likely to contract it. If you don’t have it, you won’t spread it.

I don't think this is correct.

Clinical trials found that the Moderna vaccine reduced a person’s risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 by 94%, while the Pfizer vaccine reduced this risk by 95%.

Reduced a person’s risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19.
And therein lies the problem. So 95% of fully vaxxed people who get covid are asymptomatic. They are not uninfected. Just asymptomatic.

So one can see who the spreaders would be. To say that the vaccine reduces one's risk of contracting the virus is false because, wait for it, there is no way of knowing that a vaxxed person has it, 95% of the time.

It is possible that the viral loading may be lower and thus less infectious (and the vax does reduce coughing so there is that) but that is not known to be a fact.

seem to lead to infected people having fewer virus particles in their body. However, this has yet to be confirmed.

So, if anyone is worried about getting covid, just get the vax and be done with it.

Originally Posted by k350

Vaccinated are spreaders as well, lol.

So what you should do is you take some personal responsibility, and you keep your family members away from everyone.

[middle-aged mom]

Originally Posted by Dustyroad70

This is a joke about hospitals being overrun. They are being overrun on purpose. They get paid much more for a covid patient so, they are the priority to be hospitalized and they are are more likely to be called covid as we have seen when and if they die. Then they cynically go in front of the cameras with sob stories. I know that nurses are overwhelmed due to staffing shortages, mostly caused by moneysaving measures by administrators.

There are more than 6000 hospitals in the US. Not possible for every hospital to be overrun at the same time.

Some hospital administrators and thus some county public health departments have made clear they are out of ICU beds and/ or the ERs are being overwhelmed

Medicare pays a 20% premium on enrolled patients when complications from Covid result in hospitalization. Everyone else, not so much.

Healthcare professionals are not a fungible mass. Nursing, like most professional healthcare careers, trends towards specialities. Not all healthcare professionals want to work in hospitals or in the ICU and ER or vice- versa.

Rising wages tend to cause push inflation where the increased costs are reflected in the price of consumer goods and services. In competitive healthcare markets, wages tend to be competitive.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by springfieldva

This has all made me realize how much I had been vastly overestimating the critical thinking skills of a large segment of society. People who are still listening to the likes of Dr Fauci and his brethren must not see how they have contradicted themselves and changed their opinion over and over again to the point of being completely nonsensical.

What's nonsensical is people who read something inflammatory (and political) on the internet (and believe it) over physicians/scientists/immunologists i.e. a team of experts who have been dealing with a virus (and its variants) of which nothing was known just a short time ago. It's clear the motivation of those who do so; and obviously, it has nothing to do with our country's public health/care or economy whereas the likes of Fauci (and others) have tirelessly contributed to this effort. Hmm, they are all wrong - and you are right i.e. that's your critical thinking skills at work, lol.

[TMSRetired]

Originally Posted by Grlzrl

If you are vaxxed and I am not, please explain how that's a threat to you.

Because the government and MSM said so. Lemmings believe what they are told and cannot think for themselves.