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Old 09-14-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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..and there is no evidence to show the man even knows who Trump is, much less supported him
Irrelevant point.

Trying to put a killer on a political team to troll the opposition is ridiculous.

 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: TPA
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More specifically, he increased funding for mental health. He moved agencies and funding around, to consolidate. So you can be disingenuous and call it a cut to agency A, but the money and responsibilities were moved to agency B. It's like taking a bucket of water from the shallow end, and poring it into the deep end of the pool.
So I just pulled numbers out of my behind? I guess I just threw out 21% because it sounded good...I'm not being disingenuous, ive seen all the numbers. You can spin them how you want to. He did indeed make egrigious cuts, while giving a massive haul towards the opiods epidemic. But notice I also said "its not all on Trump", so dont act like this is some anti Trump agenda. Republicans by and large have a history of defunding and cutting "social" programs, that are meant to help all Americans. And many Americans see no problem with it because its "not in their neighborhood" (when it really is).
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Opened the first post (ignored) to get the link to the article. Ignored the commentary, so I have no idea what he wrote.

Looks like a person who was already pretty obviously disturbed snapped after he lost his job. The article is written with the clear intention of making this look political. We don't actually know that it was.

First, they were neighbors. There was history. Even no history is a history between neighbors.

Second, even the article stated that the motivation was "in part" due to politics. They didn't say what other parts there were.

Third, did you make it all the way to the bottom? Did you read the whole thing? The guy's a nut. I don't think his politics is all that relevant to his sanity.

Looks to me like there's a lot more going on there than what the article provided. Not sure I'd be too quick to jump on the "it was because of a sign in their yard" bandwagon just yet, if the truth is what matters to you. If it's just about winning some game you think you're playing, then whatever.
But the victims had a Biden flag, and TDS kicked in and suddenly the killer is a Trump supporter.



TDSTDSTDSTDSTDS, nuff said
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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Political extremists are asshats.
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So I just pulled numbers out of my butt? I'm not being disingenuous, ive seen all the numbers. You can spin them how you want to. He did indeed make egrigious cuts, while giving a massive haul towards the opiods epidemic. But notice I also said "its not all on Trump", so dont act like this is some anti Trump agenda. He did not help the mental cause.
If agencies are being restructured, so that funding for mental health is moved from one agency to another, is funding really cut, or is it just the results of restructuring and reallocation of funds?


Where did i even infer you were on "some anti Trump agenda?" You are like the OP, making crap up.
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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I believe it. So many people in this country are too far gone these days. He shouldve known after Joe Exotic and Mr. DC Bomber that Trump is not going to bail him out if he did this.

We need better mental health infrastructure, and I actually mean that. Republicans should stop cutting the funding.
This guy invaded their home fully intending to kill them both on Trump's behalf. This is right-wing extremism, not mental health issues.
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Irrelevant point.

Trying to put a killer on a political team to troll the opposition is ridiculous.
How is it irrelevant? The point I'm making is precisely that "trying to put a killer on a political team to troll the opposition is ridiculous." There is no indication the man knew who Trump was, much less supported him. So framing this article as if a Trump supporter murdered people for supporting Biden is a lie, and the author of the article and the editors should be fired.
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Shooting politicians is absolutely not Ok, but it's not uncommon. It's why they have protection everywhere they go.

But shooting someone who is just a voter. That crossed another line.

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sounds like they felt an effigy of Trump was acceptable. Nah, the "just a voter" would have occurred by Jan 6th
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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This guy invaded their home fully intending to kill them both on Trump's behalf. This is right-wing extremism, not mental health issues.
Where is the evidence he even knew who Trump was? Do people like you even read the articles you promote?
 
Old 09-14-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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It is horrible of me to say, but if this happened more before the election, we not have the border crisis right now. A-Stan not be abandoned. All the cray cray policies not even be on the table. POTUS election is very important. It literally is a life or death situation.
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