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Old 09-16-2021, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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here's the CDC page on vaxxed hospitalizations and deaths, from "49 states and territories".

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html

2,700 deaths and 11K hospitalizations.

87% of deaths are over 65.
21% of deaths (so some portion would have been 65+) were asymptomatic (edit, whoops!) or admitted unrelated to Covid - did not die OF Covid.

25% of hospitalizations are because they tested for Covid at admission, even though asymptomatic or there for care unrelated to Covid.

Now, if 25% of the VAXXED and hospitalized are then "Oh, you've got Covid too", then I would assume an even higher % of UNVAXXED went for something else and tested positive. But that's just an opinion.

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Old 09-16-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24 View Post
A record number of flu vaccinations were recorded for the 2020-2021 flu season.

“As of late November, some 188 million doses of influenza vaccine had been distributed across the U.S. — the highest number recorded in one flu season — the CDC reports.”



https://www.jwatch.org/fw117313/2020...ributed-season

May suspicion was right! Thanks for the details.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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You have to cite your sources when you provide specific numbers. That's like rule #1.

The specific figure you cited above is an excellent example of why. In every one of these claims that I've checked out (e.g. when people provided a citation), that figure has represented every single hospitalization since this started - including the year with the most hospitalizations, which is the year we didn't have any shots for it.

IOW, that figure is almost certainly a lie, and you're spreading misinformation.

Please cite your source.
while any number over 90% has been widely-used and generally-accepted, here's some data. And let me be clear, when the current "experts" resort to stats that go to the beginning of the pandemic or even just Jan 2021, they are doing it wrong and they're stupid.

Per my link above, as of Sept 7 there had been 11,400 total breakthrough hospitalizations (including 25% admitted not for Covid).

As of Sept 7, the DAILY average of admissions was 11,754. The week before, it was 12,251.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

So, just 2 weeks of total admissions is (7 x 11,754) + (7 x 12,251) = 168,000 admissions.

If every single vaxxed admission had only occurred in the last 2 weeks, that would be 93%.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 12:47 PM
 
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You guys do understand that a higher proportion of vaccinated people will lead to a higher proportion of those hospitalized being vaccinated, right? Right?

Imagine a 100% vaccination rate. Every case would be a breakthrough case. Of those, a non-zero percentage would be hospitalized. This is predictable - in fact, predicted. And Alex Jones would scream his fat head off about how that would prove how the vaccine was the cause of hospitalization, because he knows his audience.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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https://rumble.com/vmj0xt-un-graph-s...-en-masse.html


Statistical graphs - The most Vax'd are the most infected and the most dying right now.

Alex Jones is a vitamin shill (quack) site https://www.ebay.com/itm/14330707503...evt=1&mkcid=28


InfoWars is an American far-right conspiracy theory and fake news website owned by Alex Jones. It was founded in 1999, and operates under Free Speech Systems LLC.



Quit tossing garbage out
 
Old 09-16-2021, 01:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I have been telling people this for a long time now!

So has Alex Jones, I won't believe him either until credible evidence supports these allegations.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 01:16 PM
 
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Here's the main question I have: are hospitals in Israel having issues with bed or ICU capacity?
 
Old 09-16-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The vaccinated are the real threat to the unvaccinated.
They are unknowingly getting reinfected and still able to transmit.
Just like the regular flu, nothing can truly stop this nu-flu.
The vax does have benefits, absolutely, but the truth needs to get out there that it is not a silver bullet and that you 100% can become reinfected and continue to spread the virus.
Good post.
 
Old 09-16-2021, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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The bottom line is that the unvaccinated are overwhelming these hospitals in Mississippi, Idaho and other states, are you going to worry if the unvaccinated in an ICU are 97% or 98%, and what are you going to do with that information. So are you going to make a decision to remain unvaccinated if the percentage is 92%, what's the point we now this surge is almost entirely due to unvaccinated.

Pull up any article and tell me what you see occurring in the ICU's in Mississippi.


https://www.newsnationnow.com/health...d-populations/
you just shared a 5 week old article, but it's you, so I'm not really that surprised.

Since Aug 23rd, MS cases have dropped significantly. Their Covid ICU beds are down from 511 to 409.

*worldometers and JHU weekly hospital survey
 
Old 09-16-2021, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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You guys do understand that a higher proportion of vaccinated people will lead to a higher proportion of those hospitalized being vaccinated, right? Right?

Imagine a 100% vaccination rate. Every case would be a breakthrough case. Of those, a non-zero percentage would be hospitalized. This is predictable - in fact, predicted. And Alex Jones would scream his fat head off about how that would prove how the vaccine was the cause of hospitalization, because he knows his audience.
when I couldn't last more than 30 seconds of that video, I thought - "that graph line he's showing is of the # of vaxxed getting hospitalized", which naturally is a number that could only have started in January anyway.
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