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Yes and no. The vaccinated who are asymptomatic tend to emit much less virus even if they are infected. If both people are vaccinated, the chance of one catching an infection from the other is low.
Now, if a person is unvaccinated, they naturally need to be extra careful and treat everyone they interact with as if they are infected regardless if the other person is vaccinated or not. Even if the other person is vaccinated, the reduced concentration of the virus emit by the vaccinated may still be enough to get an unvaccinated very sick.
A study by University of Oxford scientists has found that people who contract the Delta variant of COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated carry a similar amount of the coronavirus as those who catch the disease and have not been inoculated.
You'd have to really have no feelings for your family to politicize their obituary.
Yes it was her family that politicized her obituary.
Instead of only talking about her life, and what she brought to the world. They decided to make a statement and place blame on a group of people that there is in reality NO proof that they are the ones where she contracted COVID from.
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So they must also believe she, as a breakthrough case, didn't infect others?
And what exactly does the vaccination accomplish that make them think others shoudl be vaccinated, too?
this is everything you need to know about this tragic case (from the article):
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It is incredibly rare for fully vaccinated Americans to contract a severe breakthrough case of COVID-19 and to die from the disease - and those who have had the shot have less than one in 13,000 chance of a severe breakthrough infection, according to a DailyMail.com analysis of data from the CDC.
More than 99 percent of COVID hospitalizations and deaths in the US since January 2021 have occurred in unvaccinated people.
But of the patients with breakthrough infections who do require hospital care, they are likely to be older or to suffer from three or more underlying medical conditions, such as obesity, gastrointestinal diseases and neurological conditions.
It's not clear if Ayers had any of those underlying health conditions, but her son said that family were concerned for his mother's health ahead of her trip to Mississippi because she had severe rheumatoid arthritis - where the body's immune system attacks its own tissue.
maybe they hadn't heard, and certainly the CDC hasn't done a good enough job communicating it -
Being old is #1
Being immune-compromised is #2. (cancer, organ recipient, "other" - like rheumatoid arthritis)
There is no other condition (including obesity per a study) that significantly increases the outcome of Covid.
"Guilty until proven innocent".... that is a very strange way to describe basic safety procedure.
I suppose you're part of the group that would say, "Don't worry, just assume every gun is not loaded and freely point it at people."
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Your mentality and goal is to treat anyone and everyone who's not been vaccinated, guilty of infecting others with covid, even if they've not been tested to see if they have covid in the first place.
She had a pre-existing condition that affected her immune system. Despite that she voluntarily traveled to Mississippi, a high-COVID state. Between her plane rides, car travel, restaurants, etc while there there is absolutely no telling where or how she contracted COVID.
Yet the family blames the unvaccinated. This pisses me off. It’s like blaming a handsome chicken for the fox breaking into the coop at night. It’s just plain ignorant, emotional outgassing … and it’s become really, really tiring to hear people do this.
Grow the F up, Americans.
Agree, this is really bass ackwards.
This woman traveled to another state where she doesn’t live, and her family is blaming all the unvaccinated of that other state for being “selfish.â€
With respect, she should have stayed home. It is not other people’s responsibility to protect you.
I am also joining the chorus of those who are pointing out that the vaccines don’t work and seem to be making things worse.
when a very loved one dies abruptly and unexpectedly, loved ones of the deceased often experience extreme anger and crazy thinking. the family in this story is grieving for their much loved wife and mother. it is unfair and cruel for anyone, including the press, to condemn loved ones for what is said in such a state of mind during the throes of grief.
when a very loved one dies abruptly and unexpectedly, loved ones of the deceased often experience extreme anger and crazy thinking. the family in this story is grieving for their much loved wife and mother. it is unfair and cruel for anyone, including the press, to condemn loved ones for what is said in such a state of mind during the throes of grief.
The headline would be more appropriate to be "Despite vaccination, woman dies of COVID".
And by the way, no hate or blame on the gain of function research funded by Fauci.
Are you sure? Don't you need to know who actually infected her? The article is about the blame on unvaccinated, not really about the cause of death.
there's almost no way to know WHO infected her.
What we DO know is that she was in a high-risk group, and she should have been taking precautions, but apparently didn't realize it
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