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Old 09-17-2021, 08:58 PM
 
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Even some of the liberal justices are calling out the partisan BS. They have to wait for proper procedure to bring cases to their doorstep while dishonest trolls suggest that they have actually ruled upon the new laws.

Seriously, if you're that stupid, shame on you.

 
Old 09-17-2021, 08:58 PM
 
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This is the result of packing the court with justices who represent the far right minority of the electorate instead of the majority.
You could have fooled me, saying this present Supreme Court is convervative, right winged.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 09:26 PM
 
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The real issue is that other people inject too much politics into their interpretation of SCOTUS. People want the court to rule on feelings, or to rewrite the law based on what they want it to say, or to make broad sweeping social decisions based on a single case.

The job of the court is to apply the Constitution and precedent to specific facts of a specific case.

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As far as packing is concerned, I would personally be amenable to expansion to 11 justices, to match the number of Circuit Courts. In which case, I would legislate that the number be forever tied to the number of circuit courts, so as not to be subject to the whims of any one administration. I would also prescribe that each of the appointments not be made until a full round of federal elections has passed.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 09:28 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Liberals like OP are interested in destroying all American institutions and the Supreme Court is no exception.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 10:43 PM
 
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Mitch McConnell and Trump had a lot to do with this.

Within hours of Scalia’s death, McConnell made clear no Obama appointment would get a confirmation hearing just 9 months before an election. Yet he changed his mind about confirmation hearing after RGB’s death, less than 2 months before election.

The ridiculous confirmation hearing of Kavenaugh was political theatre payback.

Trump campaigned on his ability to appoint conservative justices.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZlzhULrJC0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdpcUF_PK7I
 
Old 09-17-2021, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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The court is being seen as more partisan and less objective by an increasing number of Americans. Its recent rulings are very much behind this.
Most Americans have no idea about the rulings of the SCOTUS, don't read the opinions, have no idea of the history of the judiciary and don't understand what it was intended to do. All they know is what they read in the newspapers (old people) or read in Twitter (young people).

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Actually, it does matter. The power of the Supreme Court rests in the majority of Americans believing that it is the final decision on matters. If the majority believe it is nothing but a republican packed court making decisions that only a minority support, ...
I don't recall anyone complaining about the Warren Court, a Democrat packed court, making decisions that only a minority supported. Roe v Wade was certainly not supported by majority of Americans when it was decided.

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It's not a lie. The SC is very far right wing compared to the majority of the country.
The SCOTUS is anything but "far right wing". It is actually slightly left of center despite having six Republican appointees. If you look at voting patterns, the Democrat appointed bloc almost never has swayed from the liberal position. Over the last 30 years they have voted in lock step. That is not true of the Republican appointed bloc, much to the chagrin of people who worked so hard for Republican appointees.

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Mitch McConnell and Trump had a lot to do with this. Within hours of Scalia’s death, McConnell made clear no Obama appointment would get a confirmation hearing just 9 months before an election. Yet he changed his mind about confirmation hearing after RGB’s death, less than 2 months before election.
McConnell was merely applying the Biden Standard, since then Senate Judiciary Chairman Joe Biden said that if a seat came open in Bush's last year, there would be no hearing or confirmation.

The difference between Obama and Trump is that Obama was a lame duck President. Trump was not.

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The ridiculous confirmation hearing of Kavenaugh was political theatre payback.
If you mean the confirmation hearing in the "last two months", that was the Barrett Nomination

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Trump campaigned on his ability to appoint conservative justices.
And Biden and Clinton campaigned on their ability to appoint liberal justices. What is your point?

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That is because they are stacked in favor of the right, by refusing to appoint justices who were rightly nominated, and choosing to replace them. I'll give the right this much credit. Even with a baffoon leader like Trump, they were able to illegally stack the SCOTUS, and it will have effects for decades.
There was nothing illegal in not holding hearings on Garland and nothing illegal in confirming Barrett.

As to "justices who were rightly nominated", it was the Democrats, who for the first time ever, used the filibuster to block duly appointed, highly qualified federal judges under George W. Bush when they were in the minority and then abolished the filibuster rule for the judiciary when they were in the majority with Obama. The Democrat's partisan hackery bit them in the hiney. It will again if they try to pack the court.

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If they ever had a chance of staying in power, this was the only way. It remains to be seen if they will abuse their power enough to sway elections, redraw districts, and continue to dismantle the constitution in favor of these right-wing extremists. I'm not sure why they are all worried about the Taliban, they seem to support the tactics.
It is hard to know how to respond to such overheated rhetoric. In your bizarre little world justices who believe in and uphold, what the Constitution ACTUALLY SAYS are "dismantling it". Truly bizarre.

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We'll see. Barrett is on record as saying she doesn't think Roe v Wade is settled precedent as in no one is still discussing/challenging it or something like that.
Clearly Roe v Wade is not settled precedent as there are laws that challenge it constantly and Roe has been "updated" several times through Casey, Doe, Stenberg, et al.

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We all know the Supreme's can do whatever they want.
We know that because that is precisely what they did in Griswold, Casey, Obergefell, Bostock and many others.

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They could have put a hold on the law by claiming all Americans have standing with regard to the use of the snoop/snitch/bounty hunting part Texas is using to avoid scrutiny of the law by the judiciary. Heck they could have declared themselves to have standing as the final arbiters of law in this country. They could have barred it without even ruling on the abortion part until they are ready.
I think they didn't place an injunction on it precisely so it will wind up before them.

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And, if ever a law should have been barred until it receives the full scrutiny of the judiciary this is a perfect example. It's creating chaos and irreparable harm in the lives of the women it applies to.
The law doesn't outlaw abortion in TX. It provides zero enforcement by government on people who perform abortions.

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LOL,The 'all time low' is only based on about 16 years of polling despite having a supreme court for well over 200 years. News headlines are often completely misleading.Its no wonder people don't trust the media. Its not unusual if you read a given story to find the story totally contradicts its own headline.
Right, there was an article on the TX NPR site that said (in effect) "SCOTUS upholds TX abortion law", and of course the SCOTUS did no such thing. They didn't even address the case, they just didn't enjoin it.

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Liberals like OP are interested in destroying all American institutions and the Supreme Court is no exception.
Kind of.... the Left, who used to just be Liberals, is now driven by Progressives and Marxists.

They didn't want to destroy the SCOTUS when it ruled the way they wanted, in fact they've used the Court for 50 years to accomplish things they could not get a majority of Americans to agree with.


They hated the military and wanted to destroy it, but now that they are in control of it, they think they can use it to further indoctrinate young people joining the military on wokeness. You heard Milley's comments and saw the Enlisted Man's Reading List put out by the CNO.


The New Left will destroy what they cannot control and bend to their own uses.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 11:02 PM
 
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The law doesn't outlaw abortion in TX. It provides zero enforcement by government on people who perform abortions.


The law effectively bans abortion in Texas because most women do not know they are pregnant at 6 weeks. It bars 80% or more of abortions.

It is therefore causing irreparable harm to many women the longer it is allowed to stand.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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People were just reacting to headlines about women losing their rights. How many people actually read the Justices' opinions, and tried to understand their legal reasonings?

Here it is, it's only 12 pages.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...21a24_8759.pdf
 
Old 09-17-2021, 11:09 PM
 
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The entire purpose of the SC is to be constitutionalists and apply strict interpretation of the constitution.
The majority of this, fine SC do. Thank God.
 
Old 09-17-2021, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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The law effectively bans abortion in Texas because most women do not know they are pregnant at 6 weeks. It bars 80% or more of abortions. It is therefore causing irreparable harm to many women the longer it is allowed to stand.
It is a law with ZERO government enforcement.

"Speeding is illegal, but police officers will no longer pull you over it. A neighbor can sue you if he sees you speeding"

Right.
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